Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Jan 23, 2019, 10:34 pm
#391
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: LHR
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 159
I have a long transit at LAX on my way HKG-LAX-DFW. The first leg is CX F, the second is -eight hours later- in AA domestic F.
If not mistaken, I believe I have access to the F lounge thanks to the incoming CX F leg, but my question is... will they allow me in the lounge for such a long transit?
FWIW, I am a lowly BA Silver (OW Sapphire).
Thanks a million for your sage advice!
If not mistaken, I believe I have access to the F lounge thanks to the incoming CX F leg, but my question is... will they allow me in the lounge for such a long transit?
FWIW, I am a lowly BA Silver (OW Sapphire).
Thanks a million for your sage advice!
Jan 23, 2019, 11:37 pm
#392
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As long as meets the same day connection criteri then you should be fine - you can also access the Flagship Lounge in T4 for a bit of variety.
Jan 24, 2019, 2:14 am
#393
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
I have a long transit at LAX on my way HKG-LAX-DFW. The first leg is CX F, the second is -eight hours later- in AA domestic F.
If not mistaken, I believe I have access to the F lounge thanks to the incoming CX F leg, but my question is... will they allow me in the lounge for such a long transit?
FWIW, I am a lowly BA Silver (OW Sapphire).
Thanks a million for your sage advice!
If not mistaken, I believe I have access to the F lounge thanks to the incoming CX F leg, but my question is... will they allow me in the lounge for such a long transit?
FWIW, I am a lowly BA Silver (OW Sapphire).
Thanks a million for your sage advice!
Jan 24, 2019, 3:13 pm
#394
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: LHR
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 159
As serfty posted, as long as you meet the same day requirements (or before 6:00 am next), no worries. I've done it myself. Had a couple of light meals, napping, having few glasses of champagne and going on walks, including checking out the other lounges. Good time for reading your favorite book
Much appreciated!
Jan 24, 2019, 3:34 pm
#395
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
No tipping required or expected in the premium lounges. However, different story in an Admirals Club. Usually tip $1.00 per beverage.
Last edited by teemuflyer; Jan 24, 2019 at 3:43 pm
Jan 24, 2019, 5:16 pm
#396
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It’s a QF lounge. It’s Australian culture NOT to tip. Oz wages are sufficient so staff make a living wage without the need for tips to supplement. Of course staff like tips but its not a critical part of the wage structure.
Jan 24, 2019, 6:37 pm
#397
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
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Well, not to quibble too much, but it is lounge in the USA, where Oz culture to the staff is foreign to most of them. But as a general rule the USA Premium airport lounges do not expect staff to be tipped.
Jan 24, 2019, 6:45 pm
#398
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The only exception would be the bar staff, many of whom seem to openly encourage. No at the QF Lounge, but I see lots of tip jars/glasses around the bar areas at the US3 clubs.
Jan 26, 2019, 11:32 am
#399
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Orleans (MSY)
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Posts: 2,617
Never once been asked for a tip at QF F, and am glad to see it not encouraged. Ironically, it's where I typically enjoy the best service and best beverages of any bar at LAX. I've tipped a few times, but only because I felt compelled.
Feb 25, 2019, 10:36 pm
#403
Join Date: May 1998
Location: australia
Posts: 5,762
Sitting in the First Class lounge at LAX waiting for my Nadi flight on the following itinerary as an AA Executive Platinum:
LAS-AA-LAX-FJ-NAD-FJ-BNE-QF-SYD on Business class award ticket
The Junior lounge dragon passed my boarding passes on to the Senior lounge dragon who did not bat an eyelid
The Oneworld Connect status of FJ would seem to indicate that if I was a QF Emerald status passenger then entry would be allowed (from Dec 8 2018) but the FJ website seems to indicate that AA doesn't become an FJ sponsor until the nebulous date of later in Q1 2019 when AA Emerald status from my reading of the vague literature would allow 1st class lounge access
No complaints here though
LAS-AA-LAX-FJ-NAD-FJ-BNE-QF-SYD on Business class award ticket
The Junior lounge dragon passed my boarding passes on to the Senior lounge dragon who did not bat an eyelid
The Oneworld Connect status of FJ would seem to indicate that if I was a QF Emerald status passenger then entry would be allowed (from Dec 8 2018) but the FJ website seems to indicate that AA doesn't become an FJ sponsor until the nebulous date of later in Q1 2019 when AA Emerald status from my reading of the vague literature would allow 1st class lounge access
No complaints here though
Feb 28, 2019, 12:42 pm
#405
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 544
Sorry if this has been answered before, but I didn't see it upthread or in the wiki...
Are any guests permitted in the lounge? My family of 4 is flying LAX-MEL, with 2 of us in F and the other 2 in J (bc we couldn't find availability for 4 tix in F, were lucky to find 2 and 2!). Will the two of us in F be able to bring the two in J into the lounge with us? Would be nice to get the kids showered and fed in LA before the overnight flight (and we will have been coming from the East Coast, so a break in the lounge will be nice).
Thanks in advance for any insight as to what to expect!
Are any guests permitted in the lounge? My family of 4 is flying LAX-MEL, with 2 of us in F and the other 2 in J (bc we couldn't find availability for 4 tix in F, were lucky to find 2 and 2!). Will the two of us in F be able to bring the two in J into the lounge with us? Would be nice to get the kids showered and fed in LA before the overnight flight (and we will have been coming from the East Coast, so a break in the lounge will be nice).
Thanks in advance for any insight as to what to expect!