Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
#361
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
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Beetroot is a classic ingredient in Australian burgers, hence why it’s on the menu.
I’ve never noticed the lack of view or poor device but we’ve always had a private suite with a dedicated server.
I’ve never noticed the lack of view or poor device but we’ve always had a private suite with a dedicated server.
#362
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: MSN
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#364
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Denver • DEN-APA
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Sadly, this place continues to underwhelm with the food not even close to what it used to be.
I stopped in for lunch last Sunday prior to my LAX-DFW flight and tried the Croque Monsieur. Ugh. Bad choice with little flavor. Yeah, this looks really appetizing...
Even AA's inflight Croque snack is way better. From JFK-LHR last month...
As long as I'm talking Croque, nothing tops Buvette (Paris 9e)...
I stopped in for lunch last Sunday prior to my LAX-DFW flight and tried the Croque Monsieur. Ugh. Bad choice with little flavor. Yeah, this looks really appetizing...
Even AA's inflight Croque snack is way better. From JFK-LHR last month...
As long as I'm talking Croque, nothing tops Buvette (Paris 9e)...
#365
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Orleans (MSY)
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I thought I've noticed things slipping here in terms of quality. It's gradual, but it's there. LAX T4 Flagship Dining, on the other hand, blew my socks off on my last visit. Hopefully AA doesn't compromise.
#366
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 83
Is it possible to bring a guest with travels on a different flight which is op and marketed by OW (as a non-AA OW Emerald, travelling on an AA international flight in Y?
The OW rules say yes, but last year my guest was denied entry, because staff insisted, that the guest has to be on the SAME flight.
The OW rules say yes, but last year my guest was denied entry, because staff insisted, that the guest has to be on the SAME flight.
#367
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Qantas try to have their own rules for their own members, but a non QF elite's based access allows for a guest travelling on a oneworld marketed and operated flight.
#368
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 83
OW Emerald was Latam Black.
#369
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You indicate your problem was last year; the most recent report here of such a failure was in April.
I suspect they have been reeducated again and you are likely to be fine this time.
Even the Qantas page clearly permits such guesting: Lounge Locations | North America | Los Angeles International Airport Tom Bradley Terminal | International First
Originally Posted by Eligible oneworld Status
Originally Posted by Emerald
Next onward flight that day must be on a oneworld operated and marketed flight.#~
One guest allowed and must be travelling on a oneworld operated and marketed flight.#
One guest allowed and must be travelling on a oneworld operated and marketed flight.#
Last edited by serfty; Oct 21, 2018 at 8:05 pm
#372
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
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#373
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Location: Denver • DEN-APA
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Much better dinner experience this past Monday before suffering in Economy on my LAX-JFK redeye. Great service at the bar with multiple excellent G&Ts.
Salt and pepper squid with green chili dipping sauce and aioli. Very good tonight.
For my main, the Chinese roast chicken with Sichuan eggplant, gai lan and jasmine rice. Delicious.
As was the Roast cauliflower and chickpeas with hummus, preserved lemon and sumac.
And a big wow for dessert. The Sticky Date pudding was to die for... with pecans, ginger butterscotch sauce and marscarpone.
Salt and pepper squid with green chili dipping sauce and aioli. Very good tonight.
For my main, the Chinese roast chicken with Sichuan eggplant, gai lan and jasmine rice. Delicious.
As was the Roast cauliflower and chickpeas with hummus, preserved lemon and sumac.
And a big wow for dessert. The Sticky Date pudding was to die for... with pecans, ginger butterscotch sauce and marscarpone.
#374
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
Posts: 19,589
Thanks for the pics .... pretty sad bar bottles compared to the F lounges in SYD and MEL. Ironic given the cheap cost of booze in US, but I suppose they have a lot of outgo so have to stock cheaper brands. QF really does well at their SYD/MEL F lounges when it comes to alcohol Food has become erratic these days but often good
#375
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 80
Hi everyone, I have just a quick question about access on separate tickets. I've got a flight in CX F booked as an Alaska partner award arriving into LAX in the morning, then departing to SFO on an Alaska flight late the same day (long connection). I understand that I'm not eligible for Qantas lounge access at LAX under my current ticket as my onward flight isn't on a Oneworld carrier. But if I buy a cheap LAX-SFO flight on AA just to get lounge access here, will that ticket be sufficient for access? Even if my CX F itinerary still has the final alaska flight attached?
Thanks!
Thanks!