Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Oct 13, 2022, 9:21 pm
#781
Join Date: Sep 2019
Posts: 16
Access to Lounge
Hello, I apologize if this is not the right place to ask. I’m traveling on an AA flight from LAX to JFK with my partner next month. I have oneworld Emerald status/BA Gold. Will I be able to access this lounge? I wasn’t clear on the sticky post.
Oct 13, 2022, 10:08 pm
#782
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1K MM, AA EXP, BA Silver, Marriott Plat., Hertz Pres. Circle, Avis First
Posts: 917
Yes. BA Gold gives you access, and you get one guest.
Oct 13, 2022, 10:20 pm
#783
FlyerTalk Evangelist
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Location: Melbourne
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- Where lounge access is available by class of service, First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline.
- Where lounge access is available by status, Emerald and Sapphire members may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld carrier.
Oct 13, 2022, 10:34 pm
#784
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Location: SYD
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Don’t you mean “Emerald and sapphire members members may invite one guest to join them in the First Class or Business Class lounge respectively” (or similar words) ??
Oct 18, 2022, 8:02 am
#787
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Join Date: Sep 2019
Programs: AA: CK
Posts: 2,230
Hello! I am OWE (CK through AA.) I know I can use this lounge when departing LAX-MEX. However, I'm curious if I can use it on my layover on a MEX-LAX-SFO itinerary? I'm in J, but I don't think that's relevant. Thanks!
Oct 18, 2022, 3:26 pm
#788
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International North American FlightsAmerican Airlines AAdvantage members members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for access to oneworld member airline lounge when travelling solely on North American flights between the U.S., Canada, Mexico (except Mexico City), the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean.
Limited Time Offer: Effective 1 April 2021, American Airlines First and Business Class customers, as well as American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro and Platinum members will be eligible for lounge access to AA Admirals Clubs when travelling on an AA operated international flight. For more information, visitAmerican Airlines’ website.
Limited Time Offer: Effective 1 April 2021, American Airlines First and Business Class customers, as well as American Airlines AAdvantage Executive Platinum, Platinum Pro and Platinum members will be eligible for lounge access to AA Admirals Clubs when travelling on an AA operated international flight. For more information, visitAmerican Airlines’ website.
Oct 18, 2022, 3:33 pm
#789
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Programs: AA: CK
Posts: 2,230
Given the international Itinerary MEX to SFO, you should get access. But who knows what will happen when you try to enter.
https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges
https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges
Nov 4, 2022, 9:38 am
#790
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 633
Just adding a data point - the denials are still happening this morning.
LAX-JFK in AA F with BA Silver (Sapphire) attached. Agent never scanned the boarding pass, and was not familiar with JFK being a 3-cabin flight.
She then called the AA lounge a few times to confirm access - of course, the AA lounge agents claimed that access was only on international first.
Showing them the detail upthread from the OW AND Qantas site did no good - the agent reiterated that something had changed post-pandemic where AA has stopped "paying them" for access.
Will reach out to the lounge supervisor via email and report back...
LAX-JFK in AA F with BA Silver (Sapphire) attached. Agent never scanned the boarding pass, and was not familiar with JFK being a 3-cabin flight.
She then called the AA lounge a few times to confirm access - of course, the AA lounge agents claimed that access was only on international first.
Showing them the detail upthread from the OW AND Qantas site did no good - the agent reiterated that something had changed post-pandemic where AA has stopped "paying them" for access.
Will reach out to the lounge supervisor via email and report back...
Last edited by a330300; Nov 4, 2022 at 1:40 pm
Nov 5, 2022, 9:24 am
#792
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,086
Just adding a data point - the denials are still happening this morning.
LAX-JFK in AA F with BA Silver (Sapphire) attached. Agent never scanned the boarding pass, and was not familiar with JFK being a 3-cabin flight.
She then called the AA lounge a few times to confirm access - of course, the AA lounge agents claimed that access was only on international first.
Showing them the detail upthread from the OW AND Qantas site did no good - the agent reiterated that something had changed post-pandemic where AA has stopped "paying them" for access.
Will reach out to the lounge supervisor via email and report back...
LAX-JFK in AA F with BA Silver (Sapphire) attached. Agent never scanned the boarding pass, and was not familiar with JFK being a 3-cabin flight.
She then called the AA lounge a few times to confirm access - of course, the AA lounge agents claimed that access was only on international first.
Showing them the detail upthread from the OW AND Qantas site did no good - the agent reiterated that something had changed post-pandemic where AA has stopped "paying them" for access.
Will reach out to the lounge supervisor via email and report back...
Nov 5, 2022, 3:57 pm
#793
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: SFO
Programs: AY Plat, LH FTL
Posts: 7,370
Great experience today from efficient entry processing to quick food service. Menu hasn't changed from the summer, but everything we had was well executed.
I'm not a fried food person, but that S&P squid is addictive and they've got a decent Riesling that compliments that and the spicy stir fry well.
If I get over to the FL, I'll see if I can ascertain if AA has truly stopped provisioning access for premium transcon F.
I'm not a fried food person, but that S&P squid is addictive and they've got a decent Riesling that compliments that and the spicy stir fry well.
If I get over to the FL, I'll see if I can ascertain if AA has truly stopped provisioning access for premium transcon F.
Nov 6, 2022, 10:51 am
#795
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Join Date: Sep 2019
Programs: AA: CK
Posts: 2,230
What? No. Sapphire gets you J lounges. Emerald needed for F lounges.
