Sep 8, 2016, 6:42 am
Last edit by: serfty
For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
Aug 22, 2022, 11:29 am
#676
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Aug 22, 2022, 1:13 pm
#677
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Got it now, I see it. Thanks... Had no idea J on the Transcon would get you in. Assumed if anything that would get you into OW J lounge. Although come to think of it someone recently on the AA board was denied access to OW J on a Transcon which makes no sense if you get into QF F/
Aug 22, 2022, 6:29 pm
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Got it now, I see it. Thanks... Had no idea J on the Transcon would get you in. Assumed if anything that would get you into OW J lounge. Although come to think of it someone recently on the AA board was denied access to OW J on a Transcon which makes no sense if you get into QF F/
Aug 22, 2022, 6:35 pm
#679
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No, it doesn’t say J on a premium transcon gets you into the F lounge, just that it grants oneworld lounge access. (And anyway, it’s probably moot because at LAX, the AA Flagship lounge which all premium transcon J passengers have access to, is better than the oneworld Business Lounge)
I have F on the red eye to JFK so just hoping to finally try QF F and see if the food is as good as everyone says. I have been very VERY underwhelmed by FFD food but keeping an optimistic outlook for QF F
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Aug 22, 2022, 10:04 pm
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Aug 22, 2022, 11:14 pm
#681
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True.. It seems like the agents are going off what QF headquarters/customer service tells them? I mean when I got denied on arriving in F on JL HND-LAX I was told after calling QF the next day as well as contacting them on Twitter that I only get access if departing from LAX on the international leg. Also, they directed me to somewhere on the QF site where it said it was a QF lounge. I was trying to tell them its a OW lounge and to read the OW rules.
So if the issue is, and its happened a lot b/c I have read so many complaints, I dont understand why wouldnt OW get involved and set QF straight.
At any rate I will be there in a week and just hope I get let in on my LAX-JFK F boarding pass.
So if the issue is, and its happened a lot b/c I have read so many complaints, I dont understand why wouldnt OW get involved and set QF straight.
At any rate I will be there in a week and just hope I get let in on my LAX-JFK F boarding pass.
Aug 25, 2022, 9:51 am
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True.. It seems like the agents are going off what QF headquarters/customer service tells them? I mean when I got denied on arriving in F on JL HND-LAX I was told after calling QF the next day as well as contacting them on Twitter that I only get access if departing from LAX on the international leg. Also, they directed me to somewhere on the QF site where it said it was a QF lounge. I was trying to tell them its a OW lounge and to read the OW rules.
So if the issue is, and its happened a lot b/c I have read so many complaints, I dont understand why wouldnt OW get involved and set QF straight.
At any rate I will be there in a week and just hope I get let in on my LAX-JFK F boarding pass.
So if the issue is, and its happened a lot b/c I have read so many complaints, I dont understand why wouldnt OW get involved and set QF straight.
At any rate I will be there in a week and just hope I get let in on my LAX-JFK F boarding pass.
Aug 25, 2022, 4:59 pm
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I mean when I got denied on arriving in F on JL HND-LAX I was told after calling QF the next day as well as contacting them on Twitter that I only get access if departing from LAX on the international leg. Also, they directed me to somewhere on the QF site where it said it was a QF lounge. I was trying to tell them its a OW lounge and to read the OW rules.
Make sure you have your QFF details in the booking for your LAX-JFK as (per OW rules):Domestic Flights
American Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on domestic U.S. flights (some exceptions apply). For more information, visit American Airlines' website.
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Aug 25, 2022, 10:51 pm
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Access and Pre-Flight Dining
I’m flying from LAX to Europe on AA in Economy. I’m OW Emerald with AS. I read the rules thoroughly, and I see no reason why I wouldn’t have access?
Also, I just noticed that the rules say Pre-Flight Dining is excluded, is that correct?
Also, I just noticed that the rules say Pre-Flight Dining is excluded, is that correct?
Aug 26, 2022, 1:14 am
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Make sure you have your QFF details in the booking for your LAX-JFK as (per OW rules):Domestic Flights
American Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on domestic U.S. flights (some exceptions apply). For more information, visit American Airlines' website....
Make sure you have your QFF details in the booking for your LAX-JFK as (per OW rules):Domestic Flights
American Airlines AAdvantage members, regardless of their tier status or class of travel, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling solely on domestic U.S. flights (some exceptions apply). For more information, visit American Airlines' website....
To be clear, this is class of service based, not status.
https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges
Premium CustomersCustomers traveling in First or Business class, who do not hold oneworld Emerald or Sapphire status, are not eligible for lounge access when travelling on American Airlines domestic flights solely within U.S., between U.S. and Caribbean, between U.S. and Mexico (except Mexico City), or Canada, other than the exception listed below:
- Customers traveling in First or Business class on select non-stop domestic U.S. transcontinental flights (JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO, and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access.
Aug 26, 2022, 10:02 am
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No issues getting in today as an Aadvantage Emerald flying LAX-MIA-LIM. Weirdly this routing does not allow Flagship Lounge access.
Breakfast menu was less impressive than the all day menu but I enjoyed my pancakes and the free flowing champagne. Mostly I was just happy to be here for the first time since COVID.
Only 6 of us here at 845 in the AM. It’s nice and quiet.
Breakfast menu was less impressive than the all day menu but I enjoyed my pancakes and the free flowing champagne. Mostly I was just happy to be here for the first time since COVID.
Only 6 of us here at 845 in the AM. It’s nice and quiet.
Aug 26, 2022, 12:06 pm
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No issues getting in today as an Aadvantage Emerald flying LAX-MIA-LIM. Weirdly this routing does not allow Flagship Lounge access.
Breakfast menu was less impressive than the all day menu but I enjoyed my pancakes and the free flowing champagne. Mostly I was just happy to be here for the first time since COVID.
Only 6 of us here at 845 in the AM. It’s nice and quiet.
Breakfast menu was less impressive than the all day menu but I enjoyed my pancakes and the free flowing champagne. Mostly I was just happy to be here for the first time since COVID.
Only 6 of us here at 845 in the AM. It’s nice and quiet.
Aug 26, 2022, 3:09 pm
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No issues getting in today as an Aadvantage Emerald flying LAX-MIA-LIM. Weirdly this routing does not allow Flagship Lounge access.
Breakfast menu was less impressive than the all day menu but I enjoyed my pancakes and the free flowing champagne. Mostly I was just happy to be here for the first time since COVID.
Only 6 of us here at 845 in the AM. It’s nice and quiet.
Breakfast menu was less impressive than the all day menu but I enjoyed my pancakes and the free flowing champagne. Mostly I was just happy to be here for the first time since COVID.
Only 6 of us here at 845 in the AM. It’s nice and quiet.
Aug 26, 2022, 3:14 pm
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Note that those travelling in First on a three class AA service LAX-JFK should have access to the Qantas First Lounge at LAX.
To be clear, this is class of service based, not status.
https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges
To be clear, this is class of service based, not status.
https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges
Aug 26, 2022, 3:16 pm
#690
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Note that those travelling in First on a three class AA service LAX-JFK should have access to the Qantas First Lounge at LAX.
To be clear, this is class of service based, not status.
https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges
To be clear, this is class of service based, not status.
https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges