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For access to the Qantas First Lounge at TBIT just one of the following needs to be true:
- Non US (not AAdvantage and not Mileage Plan) oneworld Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and operated flight.
- AAdvantage or Mileage Plan Emerald departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight NOT solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- First Class passengers departing on a oneworld Marketed and Operated flight not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- Passengers in First Class on a flight longer than five hours connecting§ to/from an international or domestic short haul (five hours or less) oneworld Marketed and Operated flight and not solely on a "North American* Itinerary".
- *Recent Reports Indicate Access via the following Criteria is being Denied with patrons being sent to the Flagship Lounge in T4*: .First Class passengers^ travelling on a three class transcontinental American Airlines Marketed and Operated flight on a designated route (e.g. between Los Angeles & New York).
§ Connecting the same day or before 6am the following day. Such Lounge access is based on the class of services of the long haul flight (First or Business) regardless of the class of travel on the short haul flight.
^ Regarding AA EXP in any cabin. This is a "Class of Service" based access, so status should not be relevant. Rules indicate NO ACCESS unless in First on 3 class transcon, but there had been some contradictory experiences about this. Early on EXP based access had sometimes been granted; not so much these days. Presumably this related to confusion about the rules on behalf of the agents.
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Lounge access rules
All non-AA and Non-AS Oneworld Emerald members have access to this lounge on any oneworld itinerary regardless of cabin or final destination.
AA EXP have access when traveling to all destinations outside North America and Mexico City. Includes if pax is flying LAX-DFW-LHR because you are flying internationally that day.
No Class of Service access for domestic F without non AA and non AS Emerald status unless on designated (generally 3-class) flights to JFK and MIA.
Passengers on any 3-cabin AA flight to JFK, BOS or MIA in First Class.
Emirates pax do not have access except for Qantas Platinum One. EDIT: Appears to be that Qantas removed that access criteria from their lounge access page so I wouldn't count on this working.
No access if connecting to a non-Oneworld airline or partner.
Separate tickets within oneworld do not matter other than it has to be same day . E.g. QF F to AA Y on the same day.
To walk from T4 to TBIT will take approximately 10 minutes one way so plan accordingly if visiting this lounge.
More detail here: Lounge Access | oneworld.com
Qantas.com Access Rules, with specific carve-out for transcon markets.
Los Angeles / LAX Qantas First Class Lounge [Master Thread]
#481
Join Date: May 2009
Location: LAX
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I am on a first class paid Cathay SFO-HKG and have a connecting 1st Class AS LAX-SFO. My wife has same but all on one ticket, mine is two bought and combined/linked. Will we get access to Qantas First? If one does can the other be guested? We have AA Flagship LAX so is it even worth trying Qantas?
#482
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Location: Melbourne
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I am on a first class paid Cathay SFO-HKG and have a connecting 1st Class AS LAX-SFO. My wife has same but all on one ticket, mine is two bought and combined/linked. Will we get access to Qantas First? If one does can the other be guested? We have AA Flagship LAX so is it even worth trying Qantas?
Any LAX Flagship access would be by way of AA and not oneworld.
#483
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 112
Good morning All,
I recently re-visited the QF First Lounge at LAX before my trip to Asia. So I thought I'd share some pics along with the breakfast menu.
Happy Holiday!
I recently re-visited the QF First Lounge at LAX before my trip to Asia. So I thought I'd share some pics along with the breakfast menu.
Happy Holiday!
#484
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
Programs: Costco Executive, RaceTrac Sultan of Soda, Chick-fil-A Red
Posts: 5,660
I am on a first class paid Cathay SFO-HKG and have a connecting 1st Class AS LAX-SFO. My wife has same but all on one ticket, mine is two bought and combined/linked. Will we get access to Qantas First? If one does can the other be guested? We have AA Flagship LAX so is it even worth trying Qantas?
Try my suggestion with the AA ticket trick. SFO777 explained it pretty well below:
Don't bother. Just show up with your BA boarding pass. Agree with miamiflyer8. Simply buy a cheap AA ticket (like LAX-SFO) even non-refundable. Show them your AA boarding pass. Make sure to use Expedia.com which has a 24 hour refund policy. If that doesn't work, go the the AA Flagship Lounge... a 7-10 minute walk. Once you are in the lounge, cancel the ticket online with Expedia.com just before you leave for your LAX-NAN flight.
#485
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
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Just don't try this in Singapore where it is now a criminal offence (as of about a year ago) and at least one person has been jailed. Not sure of the US situation but DL has warned their FF about using tricks to "abuse" FF privileges, and this behaviour is easily tracked now in the days of big data. I'm sure AA is much more lenient than DL
#486
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
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Just don't try this in Singapore where it is now a criminal offence (as of about a year ago) and at least one person has been jailed. Not sure of the US situation but DL has warned their FF about using tricks to "abuse" FF privileges, and this behaviour is easily tracked now in the days of big data. I'm sure AA is much more lenient than DL
The DL incident was one guy who repeatedly used the SFO runway construction waiver to rebook for free.
Like I said before, do it once or twice and it won't be an issue. Make a habit of it, then they'll start cracking down.
#489
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
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#490
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: QF WP
Posts: 15
On topic: Recently visited the FLounge and had the heirloom tomatoes, alongside the Baja bass, with a side of the seasonal greens and some chips. Washed down with the 'Black Swan'. Not pictured: the caramel apple (which was fantastic).
Before I am unfairly accused of gluttony, might I add that I had come off a mid-con and had not eaten anything substantial since 11AM (it was approximately 9PM when I entered) .
Last edited by Wonga; Dec 2, 2019 at 8:41 pm
#491
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Gold
Posts: 3,215
How many times is it a “habit” and they begin cracking down?
#492
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP/LTG | UA P
Posts: 13,530
Its probably like churning credit cards every 33 days ...
#495
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,086
You probably should be able to do so, but the lounge dragons might be resistant. They would get paid by AA and CX respectively for the access, so they shouldn't care.