Qantas axes SAA codeshare [PER-JNB]
Feb 20, 2014, 9:34 pm
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Qantas axes SAA codeshare [PER-JNB]
Might not be a surprise:
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-axes-...rways-alliance
Qantas will abandon its alliance with South African Airways under which the airlines share flights between Australia and Johannesburg.
Feb 20, 2014, 11:30 pm
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Might not be a surprise:
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-axes-...rways-alliance
http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-axes-...rways-alliance
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The Qantas-SAA alliance was due to expire in December this year, requiring both airlines to re-apply to the International Air Services Commission before it could continue into 2015.
"Regulators had previously indicated that an extension of the codeshare beyond December 2014 was unlikely, so winding it up earlier means we can create new options for customers travelling between Perth and Johannesburg" a Qantas spokesperson told Australian Business Traveller.
The Qantas-SAA alliance was due to expire in December this year, requiring both airlines to re-apply to the International Air Services Commission before it could continue into 2015.
"Regulators had previously indicated that an extension of the codeshare beyond December 2014 was unlikely, so winding it up earlier means we can create new options for customers travelling between Perth and Johannesburg" a Qantas spokesperson told Australian Business Traveller.
Feb 21, 2014, 12:14 am
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Feb 21, 2014, 4:43 am
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I assume QF will operate to JNB so long as the 744 still operates. I also assume the 380 will not do this route.
Feb 21, 2014, 4:55 am
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SYD-JNB can follow the great circle with ETOPS 330. (unless someone put an emergency strip on Heard Island)
QF had 330's on AKL-LAX for a while.
AKL-LAX 6504 mi
PER-JNB 5173 mi
SYD-JNB 6863 mi
With the right ETOPS allowance, a 330 could do (at least) PER-JNB.
Feb 22, 2014, 2:42 am
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I find it surprising that QF cannot keep SYD-JNB viable, especially when fares on this route often go at a premium to similar length flights on the rest of the network. Anecdotally, Even now the SA sale has flights at $1599, whereas LAX is going for $1299.....but if the market is not there, QF as a private company with no government preference or support cannot keep flying routes for the sake of it.
There is only one organisation responsible if QF axes JNB - and that is the ACCC. Given the mess SAA is in (arguably worse than QF), there could be a real possibility that by the end of the year, there will be no non-stop flights between Australia and South Africa.
There is only one organisation responsible if QF axes JNB - and that is the ACCC. Given the mess SAA is in (arguably worse than QF), there could be a real possibility that by the end of the year, there will be no non-stop flights between Australia and South Africa.
Feb 22, 2014, 3:56 am
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I find it surprising that QF cannot keep SYD-JNB viable, especially when fares on this route often go at a premium to similar length flights on the rest of the network. Anecdotally, Even now the SA sale has flights at $1599, whereas LAX is going for $1299.....but if the market is not there, QF as a private company with no government preference or support cannot keep flying routes for the sake of it.
There is only one organisation responsible if QF axes JNB - and that is the ACCC. Given the mess SAA is in (arguably worse than QF), there could be a real possibility that by the end of the year, there will be no non-stop flights between Australia and South Africa.
There is only one organisation responsible if QF axes JNB - and that is the ACCC. Given the mess SAA is in (arguably worse than QF), there could be a real possibility that by the end of the year, there will be no non-stop flights between Australia and South Africa.
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Feb 22, 2014, 4:13 am
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For Perth if points are not an issue there's Air Mauritius via Mauritius more sensible than any other option.
