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Canarsie Jan 30, 2013 4:22 pm

Emergency Landing for Qantas Flight 974
 
In-flight problem forces pilot into rapid descent

By Jane Armitstead
The Daily Telegraph
January 30, 2013


A QANTAS jet plummeted 9 kilometres in five minutes yesterday after its crew noticed the aircraft was not maintaining normal cabin pressure.

There was about 150 people on flight QF974 from Brisbane when the Boeing 737-800 lost cabin pressure and was forced to land about 45 minutes into their journey.

It is understood passengers were told to brace for a “rapid descent” when the plane plummeted about 30,000 feet in about five minutes.
Thankfully, there appears to be no injuries or fatalities.

sailrob81 Jan 30, 2013 4:47 pm

Talk about the use of emotive language.

"Plummeted" used twice even though there appears to be a quote from an unnamed source of a "rapid decent". Plummeted implies a lack or loss of control. Pretty obviously that wasn't the case.

Dave Noble Jan 30, 2013 5:02 pm

Plummet means to fall or drop rapidly . There is no implication of control or lack thereof so no reason to infer it

Seems to be just the same as a term of "rapid descent" to me

matthandy Jan 30, 2013 5:13 pm

Descending to 10,000ft is standard procedure. The article implies that the descent was uncontrolled or unexpected. Rather sensational if you ask me!

Dave Noble Jan 30, 2013 5:21 pm


Originally Posted by matthandy (Post 20155890)
Descending to 10,000ft is standard procedure. The article implies that the descent was uncontrolled or unexpected. Rather sensational if you ask me!

It was unexpected. Not a normal situation in a flight , nor is it normal for oxygen masks to be deployed in flight

That people infer meanings from words that are not implied ( based on definition of plummet ) is their own issue

What is normal is posts on FT attacking the news sites for their reporting . Most of report seems to be quoting of passengers or QF spokesperson

matthandy Jan 30, 2013 5:56 pm

Descending to 10,000ft is standard procedure for a loss of cabin pressure incident and doing so as quickly as possible is vital. The descent in such a situation is not unexpected. I did not say or imply that such an incident is normal/expected, it clearly isn't.

serfty Jan 30, 2013 8:23 pm

There was a 7700 Squawk put out on the transponder.

There was an "actual time" thread on AFF for this:

QF974 has squawked 7700

og Jan 30, 2013 8:51 pm

Sounds like the Daily Terrors Ms Armitstead is a bit of a Monty Python fan - given her propensity for the word "plummet".

Surely she could have found someone who could be quoted as saying "I thought we were all going to die".

Allan38103 Jan 30, 2013 10:18 pm

Yawn.

vbroucek Jan 31, 2013 1:27 am

Usual media BS...

Lonely Flyer Jan 31, 2013 3:34 am


Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 20155846)
Plummet means to fall or drop rapidly . There is no implication of control or lack thereof so no reason to infer it

Seems to be just the same as a term of "rapid descent" to me

It was a controlled rapid descent and did not plummet. The usage of the word implies a fall or rapid drop that was uncontrolled.

ie a mountain climber plummets to his death

The stock market plummeted on the latest employment figures

Dave Noble Jan 31, 2013 3:37 am


Originally Posted by Lonely Flyer (Post 20158103)
It was a controlled rapid descent and did not plummet. The usage of the word implies a fall or rapid drop that was uncontrolled.

That is an inference and not based on the actual meaning of the word

plummet verb (plummeted, plummeting) intrans to fall or drop rapidly; to plunge or hurtle downwards

The aeroplane did drop rapidly

Dave Noble Jan 31, 2013 3:40 am


Originally Posted by Lonely Flyer (Post 20158103)
It was a controlled rapid descent and did not plummet. The usage of the word implies a fall or rapid drop that was uncontrolled.

That is an inference and not based on the actual meaning of the word

plummet verb (plummeted, plummeting) intrans to fall or drop rapidly; to plunge or hurtle downwards

The aeroplane did drop rapidly

A falling climber is also plummeting
as is a falling stock market

There is nothing in the word meaning that says that the fall has to be uncontrolled

DownUnderFlyer Jan 31, 2013 9:44 am

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