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golfmad Dec 23, 2012 4:12 am
QF12 24DEC strange statistics?
 
We're on QF12 tomorrow LAX-SYD. Using KVS, availability shows that the flight is still relatively wide open in most classes. We were looking for 2 F redemption seats but looks like it's not going to happen which is fair enough. We'll make do in 12 AB :)

However, the seat map in F shows there's not a single seat available with at least 9 still on offer for sale. Yes, I know about overbooking but this seems a little odd. Anyone got any explanations?

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
MON  24 Dec 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
QF        12      LAX  22:20    SYD  08:20    388      F9 A9 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 W9 R9 T9 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0 X7 E0
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20767940/KV...2006.09.26.png

Dave Noble Dec 23, 2012 4:24 am
With a QF Gold membership in my EF account, for 24 Dec I can see 3 out of 14 seats allocated on QF12

og Dec 23, 2012 5:14 am
T-24 and seat maps are totally unreliable as upgrades are processed.

valuepac Dec 23, 2012 8:00 am
Doesn't Qantas on the day of the flight make seats available in the U and P buckets allowing other airlines such as american to use those to upgrade for their customer as well?

tt7 Dec 23, 2012 1:02 pm
Originally Posted by Dave Noble (Post 19909095)
...for 24 Dec I can see 3 out of 14 seats allocated on QF12
Ditto, I see the same (2F, 2K and 5A occupied).

Originally Posted by og (Post 19909169)
T-24 and seat maps are totally unreliable as upgrades are processed.
Why? Presumably the upgrade process is automated and takes a matter of seconds? Are you saying that, as the upgrade process runs, it automatically locks out all seat allocations and then, once completed, releases the unassigned seats again -- and the OP managed to hit this precise (and presumably pretty short) interval with their query?

Originally Posted by valuepac (Post 19909654)
Doesn't Qantas on the day of the flight make seats available in the U and P buckets allowing other airlines such as american to use those to upgrade for their customer as well?
No. QF is well-known for allowing premium seats to remain empty, rather than allocating them for award redemptions.

For the OP, why take 12AB rather than 12EF - wouldn't you rather have an aisle each?

og Dec 23, 2012 1:03 pm
Originally Posted by valuepac (Post 19909654)
Doesn't Qantas on the day of the flight make seats available in the U and P buckets allowing other airlines such as american to use those to upgrade for their customer as well?
No - unless there has has been a recent change.

jozdemir Dec 23, 2012 1:43 pm
I noticed exactly the same seat map availability for QF 1 on 29/12/2012, I just figured it was something QF did...clearly that assumption was right :D

My KVS only has my lowly QF Silver details in there though

m0hamed Dec 23, 2012 2:02 pm
QF now process upgrades right up until boarding. My last QF12 only had 3 seats in F sold, but upon departure was completely full.

golfmad Dec 23, 2012 2:22 pm
Originally Posted by tt7 (Post 19910853)
For the OP, why take 12AB rather than 12EF - wouldn't you rather have an aisle each?
Thanks but the missus prefers a window seat and she likes to be tucked away.


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