Rumour: QF+EK announcement next week.
Sep 5, 2012, 7:03 pm
#106
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It all sounds great, I just find it odd that Qantas, the AUSTRALIAN airline will fly from just MEL & SYD. Whereas Emirates, a foreign airline will fly from ADL, BNE and PER too.
Obviously there is enough traffic from those three cities onto Dubai and further points in Europe - it's just odd that Qantas has no interest in flying those routes, and Emirates does.
Kind of like United flying BNE ADL and PER to LAX but not Qantas. Just strikes me as odd.
Obviously there is enough traffic from those three cities onto Dubai and further points in Europe - it's just odd that Qantas has no interest in flying those routes, and Emirates does.
Kind of like United flying BNE ADL and PER to LAX but not Qantas. Just strikes me as odd.
Sep 5, 2012, 7:09 pm
#107
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The more I read the happier I am about this. Looks like many/most QF benefits (even the baggage allowance) will apply even if you are flying on an EK flight number not the QF one:-
http://www.qantasandemirates.com/dow...0QUESTIONS.pdf
Maybe not SCs when flying on an EK flight number, but why should this surprise or disappoint - they are not in OW, so you get miles but no SCs just like flying with all other of QFs non-OW airline partners.
I also see no mention anywhere of dropping codeshares etc with BA etc.
http://www.qantasandemirates.com/dow...0QUESTIONS.pdf
Maybe not SCs when flying on an EK flight number, but why should this surprise or disappoint - they are not in OW, so you get miles but no SCs just like flying with all other of QFs non-OW airline partners.
I also see no mention anywhere of dropping codeshares etc with BA etc.
Sep 5, 2012, 7:12 pm
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13. If I am a Qantas customer flying internationally from April 2013 onwards,
what does this mean for my travel?
If you are flying to North or South America, South Africa, Japan, Bangkok, as well as New Zealand, The Philippines, Jakarta, Hawaii, China or other Qantas codeshare destinations you are not affected at all by these announcements.
If you are flying to Singapore or Hong Kong, your flights may have a different departure and arrival time however you will still travel on the same day. We will advise you directly of any time changes to your itinerary.
If you are travelling to the UK or Europe from April 2013, your flight will operate via Dubai and then onward to your destination, subject to regulatory approval.
what does this mean for my travel?
If you are flying to North or South America, South Africa, Japan, Bangkok, as well as New Zealand, The Philippines, Jakarta, Hawaii, China or other Qantas codeshare destinations you are not affected at all by these announcements.
If you are flying to Singapore or Hong Kong, your flights may have a different departure and arrival time however you will still travel on the same day. We will advise you directly of any time changes to your itinerary.
If you are travelling to the UK or Europe from April 2013, your flight will operate via Dubai and then onward to your destination, subject to regulatory approval.
Sep 5, 2012, 7:14 pm
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I'm pretty sure you're going to be able earn status credits and tier miles on each others flights, and will try and confirm with EK today.
Sep 5, 2012, 7:17 pm
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Qantas Club members may not like this bit - looks like if you flying on an EK flight number (or on EK metal even on a QF flight number?!?) you will only get lounge access in Dubai but not at any of their other destinations:-
23. As a Qantas Club member will I have access to Emirates lounges worldwide?
If you are travelling on Qantas, your lounge access will remain unchanged. If you are
flying with Emirates you will have access to the Emirates lounge in Dubai.
23. As a Qantas Club member will I have access to Emirates lounges worldwide?
If you are travelling on Qantas, your lounge access will remain unchanged. If you are
flying with Emirates you will have access to the Emirates lounge in Dubai.
Sep 5, 2012, 7:20 pm
#112
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I read that too, but it mentions Qantas Club, not QF FFP, so I wonder if those card holders will have access to EK's lounge network outside of Dubai?
Sep 5, 2012, 7:23 pm
#113
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It all sounds great, I just find it odd that Qantas, the AUSTRALIAN airline will fly from just MEL & SYD. Whereas Emirates, a foreign airline will fly from ADL, BNE and PER too.
Obviously there is enough traffic from those three cities onto Dubai and further points in Europe - it's just odd that Qantas has no interest in flying those routes, and Emirates does.
Kind of like United flying BNE ADL and PER to LAX but not Qantas. Just strikes me as odd.
Obviously there is enough traffic from those three cities onto Dubai and further points in Europe - it's just odd that Qantas has no interest in flying those routes, and Emirates does.
Kind of like United flying BNE ADL and PER to LAX but not Qantas. Just strikes me as odd.
Sep 5, 2012, 7:27 pm
#115
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Unlikely as EK have stated today thay have no plans to join any Alliance.
http://www.qantasandemirates.com
http://www.qantasandemirates.com
IMHO the big point is that we will be able to fly QF operated and marketed MEL/SYD-LHR/DXB without touching Asia.
This will make possible xONE3s that include SWP (and Europe and one of the Americas)
and to removeThis will make possible xONE3s that include SWP (and Europe and one of the Americas)
IMHO the big point is that we will be able to fly QF metal MEL/SYD-LHR (or DXB of course) without touching Asia. This will make an ex-SWP xONE3 possible
Last edited by pandaperth; Sep 5, 2012 at 7:35 pm Reason: Sharpened my thinking
Sep 5, 2012, 7:28 pm
#116
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Yep, that is why I specified Qantas Club members - it is quite clear that SGs and WPs will get lounge access everywhere, its just that Club members won't. Sounds like the BA issue all over again for them.
Sep 5, 2012, 7:29 pm
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Sep 5, 2012, 7:57 pm
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Qantas Club members may not like this bit - looks like if you flying on an EK flight number (or on EK metal even on a QF flight number?!?) you will only get lounge access in Dubai but not at any of their other destinations:-
23. As a Qantas Club member will I have access to Emirates lounges worldwide?
If you are travelling on Qantas, your lounge access will remain unchanged. If you are
flying with Emirates you will have access to the Emirates lounge in Dubai.
23. As a Qantas Club member will I have access to Emirates lounges worldwide?
If you are travelling on Qantas, your lounge access will remain unchanged. If you are
flying with Emirates you will have access to the Emirates lounge in Dubai.
The only time a QClub member wouldn't have access is their one departure from Europe... and with on-line check-in you only need to be there 90 mins before. So all up not too bad.
It's not like BA - where you could stopover in London and then not have lounge access leaving London etc.
Sep 5, 2012, 8:02 pm
#119
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BNE has always been smaller for QF (I suspect it wont support A380) although has never got the QF love (lounges and all), even after forcing pax from OOL to transit it.
Sep 5, 2012, 9:06 pm
#120
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It may sound nitpicky...But I hate Dubai airport. I would rather fly through Singapore. And if that means tossing Qantas/Emirates for another airline, then so be it.
I'm sure this will be beneficial for some, but I have no interest in it.
I'm sure this will be beneficial for some, but I have no interest in it.