Qantas Airways splits in two
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Splitting dom & intl is some what similar to what Virgin have done
From www.asx.com.au VAH
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/c...de&asxCode=vah
http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2012031...9rvwd4jpg1.pdf
From www.asx.com.au VAH
http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/c...de&asxCode=vah
http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2012031...9rvwd4jpg1.pdf
The Qantas Sale Act prohibits QF from doing this and they have wanted ammend the Act to allow this to occur, and other restrictions only applied to them, so that the playing field could be more level.
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Xenophon, Sen Nick: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/...b623%2F0000%22
Sterle, Sen Glenn: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/...b623%2F0000%22
Joyce, Sen Barnaby: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/...b623%2F0000%22
Ludlam, Sen Scott: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/...b623%2F0000%22
Edwards, Sen Sean: http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/...b623%2F0000%22
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Here's an interesting article on this change from the former chief economist at Qantas:
http://www.theage.com.au/business/hi...522-1z2jr.html
http://www.theage.com.au/business/hi...522-1z2jr.html
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Interesting suggestion from one of the readers of the article for QF to abandon the BA joint arrangement in favour of an arrangement with a Middle Eastern carrier, to enable better access to cities in Europe.
Up until relatively recently QF had a codeshare with Etihad, but I believe it was mainly for passengers heading to the Middle East. It was a lost opportunity for QF not to have expanded the Etihad arrangement further to allow one-stop hopping into Europe via Abu Dhabi instead of SIN/BKK/HKG (or now just SIN). Until something along these lines eventuates I guess we will be heading for our European destinations via LHR when travelling to Europe on QF.
Up until relatively recently QF had a codeshare with Etihad, but I believe it was mainly for passengers heading to the Middle East. It was a lost opportunity for QF not to have expanded the Etihad arrangement further to allow one-stop hopping into Europe via Abu Dhabi instead of SIN/BKK/HKG (or now just SIN). Until something along these lines eventuates I guess we will be heading for our European destinations via LHR when travelling to Europe on QF.
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Personally I think the aim is to show how International loses money as a way of laying the groundwork for some initiative(s) to build standalone profitability in International operations, rather than having Domestic support International and mask its problems. Whether that is fare hikes, partnerships, spin-off and investment, who knows. You can imagine, though, that they can better go cap-in-hand to the government looking for more flexibility if they can show that International loses money. Risk of losing an Australian icon. Public service. Competition. Blah, blah, blah.
I agree with Og, this is all deja vu for those of us old enough to remember TAA.
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Interesting suggestion from one of the readers of the article for QF to abandon the BA joint arrangement in favour of an arrangement with a Middle Eastern carrier, to enable better access to cities in Europe.
Up until relatively recently QF had a codeshare with Etihad, but I believe it was mainly for passengers heading to the Middle East. It was a lost opportunity for QF not to have expanded the Etihad arrangement further to allow one-stop hopping into Europe via Abu Dhabi instead of SIN/BKK/HKG (or now just SIN). Until something along these lines eventuates I guess we will be heading for our European destinations via LHR when travelling to Europe on QF.
Up until relatively recently QF had a codeshare with Etihad, but I believe it was mainly for passengers heading to the Middle East. It was a lost opportunity for QF not to have expanded the Etihad arrangement further to allow one-stop hopping into Europe via Abu Dhabi instead of SIN/BKK/HKG (or now just SIN). Until something along these lines eventuates I guess we will be heading for our European destinations via LHR when travelling to Europe on QF.
I heard Emirates mentioned today as a potential partner.....the most overrated carrier Ive ever come accross. It would certainly knock EY/VA partnership(& Mr Borghetti) out of the water. That said, there are rumours EY and EK will eventually merge as AUH keps bailing out DXB.....who knows....interesting times.
CJ
Last edited by Cedar Jet; May 22, 2012 at 5:58 pm
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Personally I think the aim is to show how International loses money as a way of laying the groundwork for some initiative(s) to build standalone profitability in International operations, rather than having Domestic support International and mask its problems. Whether that is fare hikes, partnerships, spin-off and investment, who knows. You can imagine, though, that they can better go cap-in-hand to the government looking for more flexibility if they can show that International loses money. Risk of losing an Australian icon. Public service. Competition. Blah, blah, blah.
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If they are looking to brand them differently, I'd suggest the following :
"Qantas" for the International brand
"Ansett" for the Domestic brand
I'm getting the strangest form of Deja Vu right now for some reason...
"Qantas" for the International brand
"Ansett" for the Domestic brand
I'm getting the strangest form of Deja Vu right now for some reason...