New domestic A330-200 EBO
May 6, 2011, 7:19 pm
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I would take it as a lesson on how not to treat your most loyal, and elite customers.
May 7, 2011, 2:04 am
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Perhaps this is a more eloquent version of my point. For this to be the first post in months by RedRoo irritates me. We have contributed immensely at RedRoo's request, only to have a fairly one way dialogue, afterall RedRoo has a total of 18 posts.
I would take it as a lesson on how not to treat your most loyal, and elite customers.
I would take it as a lesson on how not to treat your most loyal, and elite customers.
May 7, 2011, 3:59 am
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Anyway, thanks Red Roo for the update and it is good to see that QF is taking feedback on board.
May 7, 2011, 6:56 pm
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Wow, talk about shooting the messenger. Thank you Red Roo for the update.
Regarding seat maps et al. My understanding is that the 2x3x2 seats are the same effective width as the 2x2x2 seats. Is this not the case?
Personally as someone's who has a travel policy which does not pay for J to PER but does pay for full fare Y, I would have been more than happy to have used points to upgrade to a middle J seat. What this actually does for QF is remove seats for sale, decreasing award availability and increasing yield. It also makes subbing aircraft easier.
Obviously for those who are employed by companies who pay for J trans con they don't mind paying a J rather than D fare and won't notice (but QF will).
However, read between the lines. The fact that QF is not replacing the seats means the aircraft are still destined for JQ. Does this mean that JQ won't be taking 787 first? Or does it mean that the domestic config 332 are only short term in the QF fleet and will be replaced by international config aircraft until QF 787 arrive? As Virgin get more 332 aircraft and equip the 737 fleet with J the domestic config 332, 767 and 737 aircraft look far less attractive.
Regarding seat maps et al. My understanding is that the 2x3x2 seats are the same effective width as the 2x2x2 seats. Is this not the case?
Personally as someone's who has a travel policy which does not pay for J to PER but does pay for full fare Y, I would have been more than happy to have used points to upgrade to a middle J seat. What this actually does for QF is remove seats for sale, decreasing award availability and increasing yield. It also makes subbing aircraft easier.
Obviously for those who are employed by companies who pay for J trans con they don't mind paying a J rather than D fare and won't notice (but QF will).
However, read between the lines. The fact that QF is not replacing the seats means the aircraft are still destined for JQ. Does this mean that JQ won't be taking 787 first? Or does it mean that the domestic config 332 are only short term in the QF fleet and will be replaced by international config aircraft until QF 787 arrive? As Virgin get more 332 aircraft and equip the 737 fleet with J the domestic config 332, 767 and 737 aircraft look far less attractive.
May 8, 2011, 2:05 pm
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May 8, 2011, 4:03 pm
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Then get grumpy with the board of QF as a collective who ultimately are responsible for QF's communications and disclosure policies not the poor individual who somehow has to strike a balance between what they can and cannot comment on while trying to embrace social media. Once you go through this board and see who and how many people contribute to it I would hardly describe it as representative. There are what perhaps at the most a dozen frequent contributors, many of whom I think are no longer actually top tier FF's but are holding onto the glory days of times past.
May 8, 2011, 6:15 pm
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Then get grumpy with the board of QF as a collective who ultimately are responsible for QF's communications and disclosure policies not the poor individual who somehow has to strike a balance between what they can and cannot comment on while trying to embrace social media. Once you go through this board and see who and how many people contribute to it I would hardly describe it as representative. There are what perhaps at the most a dozen frequent contributors, many of whom I think are no longer actually top tier FF's but are holding onto the glory days of times past.
May 8, 2011, 6:40 pm
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If you were still active on AFF you would realise "Red Roo" indeed is and has been verified as such on that site.
That facility is now available on FT (as of last week I believe) and I suggest to "Red Roo" they take said steps for FT as well.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/new-f...tives-456.html
That facility is now available on FT (as of last week I believe) and I suggest to "Red Roo" they take said steps for FT as well.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/new-f...tives-456.html
May 8, 2011, 9:57 pm
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but I was not referring to RR, I was referring to the rest of the post.
Any posters can come and go as they please, but if someone comes on, alleging to be a rep of the company and wanting to engage then doing their damnedest NOT to engage, then they should not be surprised to be met with cynicism and derision when they do.
May 9, 2011, 12:22 am
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May 9, 2011, 1:03 am
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not going to happen...
but I was not referring to RR, I was referring to the rest of the post.
Any posters can come and go as they please, but if someone comes on, alleging to be a rep of the company and wanting to engage then doing their damnedest NOT to engage, then they should not be surprised to be met with cynicism and derision when they do.
but I was not referring to RR, I was referring to the rest of the post.
Any posters can come and go as they please, but if someone comes on, alleging to be a rep of the company and wanting to engage then doing their damnedest NOT to engage, then they should not be surprised to be met with cynicism and derision when they do.
