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david870mdg Jun 7, 2010 7:16 am

~ Don't Charge WPs for exit row seats on QF INTL flights ~

justin_krusty Jun 8, 2010 12:24 am

At SYD T3 and just heard a MEL flight announced with "At this stage we are boarding our business class passengers, as well as Platinum, Gold, OWE, OWS" or words to that effect. I was entering the QP at the time so didn't see what effect this had on the line.

d00t Jun 8, 2010 4:40 am


Originally Posted by justin_krusty (Post 14095513)
At SYD T3 and just heard a MEL flight announced with "At this stage we are boarding our business class passengers, as well as Platinum, Gold, OWE, OWS" or words to that effect. I was entering the QP at the time so didn't see what effect this had on the line.

^^^^^^

FlyMan Aug 11, 2010 7:27 pm

Priority Boarding for J-class pax?
 

Originally Posted by justin_krusty (Post 14024133)
This has been my experience too over the last 6 months flying 2-4 sectors per week. I have been avoiding the QP and hanging out at the gate (it's actually calmer than in the QP) so am there at first boarding. Never any mention of elites, and am informal line has already formed before any boarding has been announced. Once it has started boarding it would be a brave person to cut those queues.

The only time I consistently see a separate J/WP/SG line domestically is in PER, and sometimes for A330's in SYD.

I was meaning to ask this question - if priority boarding for J class is provided for domestic QF flights.

When I flew CNS-SYD 2 weeks ago, I was directed to go to the end of the queue (50+ meters) after I walked up to the front and showed my J-class BP to the gate agent. :rolleyes:

Oneworldplus2 Aug 11, 2010 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by lokijuh (Post 13996198)
- Anytime lounge access for platinums (not too many other airlines do this)

In the USA, don't you need to hold a boarding pass to get through security? Would make anytime access for OWE in the AA scheme useless?

More benefits on JQ for SG's and WP's.

serfty Aug 11, 2010 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by Oneworldplus2 (Post 14465701)
In the USA, don't you need to hold a boarding pass to get through security? Would make anytime access for OWE in the AA scheme useless? ...

Non flying A/C members can pre-arrange access for meeting etc.. Also, they can use the A/Cs upon arrival before heading landside.

martin33 Aug 12, 2010 2:21 am


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 14465932)
Non flying A/C members can pre-arrange access for meeting etc.. Also, they can use the A/Cs upon arrival before heading landside.

also, not all AA clubs are airside anyway. PHL comes to mind..

lokijuh Aug 15, 2010 5:20 am


Originally Posted by Oneworldplus2 (Post 14465701)
In the USA, don't you need to hold a boarding pass to get through security? Would make anytime access for OWE in the AA scheme useless?

Not sure if there are any airports (that have an Admirals lounge) where AA share a terminal with other carriers, but the other scenario is holding a BP for another airline - like one must to access QF intl J lounges.

In any event I can't think of too many airlines that have anytime lounge access as a tier benefit. SQ used to for PPS's (travelling on another airline) but dropped it some time ago.

NM Aug 15, 2010 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by lokijuh (Post 14483838)
Not sure if there are any airports (that have an Admirals lounge) where AA share a terminal with other carriers ...

How about DFW for starters? Terminal B has an AC (near B6) and terminal is used by UA. Terminal D has AC (near D24) and terminal is also used by Air Canada, British Airways, KLM, Korean Air, Lufthansa, Mexicana, Sun Country Airlines and TACA.

serfty Aug 15, 2010 9:19 pm

SFO is another one ...

lokijuh Aug 16, 2010 12:08 am


Originally Posted by NM (Post 14487553)
How about DFW for starters? Terminal B has an AC (near B6) and terminal is used by UA. Terminal D has AC (near D24) and terminal is also used by Air Canada, British Airways, KLM, Korean Air, Lufthansa, Mexicana, Sun Country Airlines and TACA.


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 14487669)
SFO is another one ...

I thought there was but didn't want to make a bold assertion in case I was wrong. I also forgot about ORD where you can walk airside between Terminals 1, 2 & 3, I've certainly transferred from AA to UA there without having to do security again.

Bottom line anytime access would have value, but of course this is all irrelevant anyway where (for domestic travel) in the US status is all about standby clearance and upgrades - not lounges, which is of course the reverse of what its all about on QF, priority baggage and lounges, and the points upgrade lottery.

bubbles23 Aug 16, 2010 4:26 am

Have Lifetime Silver actually mean something... I really don't get the point...

Globaliser Aug 16, 2010 5:41 am

Four-sector rule tweak please
 

Originally Posted by Tyrolean (Post 14009160)
  • No four-segment-rule for Frequent Flyers based in Europe

I can see the commercial reason for having a four-sector rule in place for all members, wherever they are based.

However, the intent of this rule would be entirely satisfied if the two-sector through flights from Europe to Australia were counted as two sectors. Anyone who does any return QF flight from Europe to Australia and back will have provided much more revenue and profit to QF than 4 x $69 cheapies between SYD and CBR. And it makes absolutely no sense that you can satisfy the four-sector rule by flying QF10/QF6 and QF5/QF9 between LHR and SYD, but you are only half way there if you fly QF2 and QF1.

And unlike many of the good suggestions which have already been made in this thread, this particular tweak should cost next to nothing to implement.

This tweak would not, however, erase the bad taste from the unforgiveable way in which enforcement of the four-sector rule was introduced. If there is ever an end to my relationship with QFFF, that will be the point at which it started - and it wasn't even me who was directly disadvantaged by it.

lokijuh Aug 16, 2010 5:49 am


Originally Posted by Globaliser (Post 14488855)
However, the intent of this rule would be entirely satisfied if the two-sector through flights from Europe to Australia were counted as two sectors.

Ditto for for flights from JFK. 108->94/93->107 gets the 4 ~ but 108/107 doesn't.

d00t Aug 16, 2010 8:33 am

Perhaps a mininum of 4,000 points earned from QF flight numbers would be better? This way the once a year euro/us travellers will make it in 1 trip. 4,000 points sounds low. QF could get away with bumping this up to 10k no probs.

AnonymousCoward Aug 17, 2010 10:09 am


Originally Posted by bubbles23 (Post 14488669)
Have Lifetime Silver actually mean something... I really don't get the point...

Main benefit - avoiding economy lines at checkin...

nth_utsera_sth_utsera Aug 17, 2010 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by Globaliser (Post 14488855)
I can see the commercial reason for having a four-sector rule in place for all members, wherever they are based.

However, the intent of this rule would be entirely satisfied if the two-sector through flights from Europe to Australia were counted as two sectors. Anyone who does any return QF flight from Europe to Australia and back will have provided much more revenue and profit to QF than 4 x $69 cheapies between SYD and CBR. And it makes absolutely no sense that you can satisfy the four-sector rule by flying QF10/QF6 and QF5/QF9 between LHR and SYD, but you are only half way there if you fly QF2 and QF1.

And unlike many of the good suggestions which have already been made in this thread, this particular tweak should cost next to nothing to implement.

This tweak would not, however, erase the bad taste from the unforgiveable way in which enforcement of the four-sector rule was introduced. If there is ever an end to my relationship with QFFF, that will be the point at which it started - and it wasn't even me who was directly disadvantaged by it.

Hanging on your every word. QF would rather favour someone who only flies on its own metal on the most deeply discounted fares x 4 segments a year over someone who is prepared to pay the highest yielding fare for LON/LAX-AUS. Very foolish.

I'd also welcome lifetime WP, but not based on age.

rdmsmith Aug 17, 2010 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by david870mdg (Post 14090524)
~ Don't Charge WPs for exit row seats on QF INTL flights ~

+1, and include OWE ^

DownUnderFlyer Aug 17, 2010 9:25 pm

Is the 4 segment rule really something QF could modify? I was always under the impression that this concept is OW mandated and that they wouldn't be able to implement a different system other than not to have the rule.

nth_utsera_sth_utsera Aug 17, 2010 11:08 pm


Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 14500853)
Is the 4 segment rule really something QF could modify? I was always under the impression that this concept is OW mandated and that they wouldn't be able to implement a different system other than not to have the rule.

Only BA & QF insist on this AFAIK. In the past, although it has always been in the QF T&Cs, it has never been enforced.

NM Aug 18, 2010 1:29 am


Originally Posted by DownUnderFlyer (Post 14500853)
Is the 4 segment rule really something QF could modify? I was always under the impression that this concept is OW mandated and that they wouldn't be able to implement a different system other than not to have the rule.

While AA has it listed in their program terms and conditions, they do not enforce it. QF also had it included in terms and conditions and did not enforce it until recently.

Tyrolean Aug 18, 2010 2:55 am


Originally Posted by AnonymousCoward (Post 14496644)
Main benefit - avoiding economy lines at checkin...

+ 25% Miles Bonus on QF,BA,AA
+ 10 kg excess luggage on QF (Mrs. Tyrolean likes this most)
+ Advanced Seat Reservation on QF and some other airlines (like IB)

You only realize the benefits if you fly on an airline without status!

Even I like it, I could live without Lounge access (as there are nice restaurants in many airports).


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