Advise please: Where to move [AA, BA?] when I hit Life Gold
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So hopefully that is all now sorted!
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I know that unless something like an aeroplane change occurring, that on AA, the seat assignment selected whilst holding status will stay even once status is lost. If a change of aeroplane occurs ( or similar ) then all seat assignments are thrown up in the air
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LucK may have something to do with it!
I had an ongoing battle with QF and my wife's (SG) seating allocations beside me after AA split our bookings on an xONEx fare for some reason.
I'd get a request put in to 'seating' for her to be allocated beside me, this would occur only for her seating to be reassigned/disappear some weeks later.
Wash, rinse, repeat ...
Also see this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-shifters.html
I had an ongoing battle with QF and my wife's (SG) seating allocations beside me after AA split our bookings on an xONEx fare for some reason.
I'd get a request put in to 'seating' for her to be allocated beside me, this would occur only for her seating to be reassigned/disappear some weeks later.
Wash, rinse, repeat ...
Also see this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-shifters.html
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Nope, they don't. They use two different AMADEUS systems. You can figure it out that Flights with QF and BA Segments have usually two Filekeys: One for BA and one for QF. Usually you can assign seats with the corresponding Filekeys in each website.
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Really? Maybe it used to be that way, but a couple of weeks ago I flew BA and QF on a single ticket, and it was same PNR for both BA and QF -- I just checked to confirm this, so definitely the same filekey. Seats were visible and assignable on both ba.com and Qantas.com so it looked pretty seamless. I used ba.com to change the Qantas.com initial seat assignment and all was well. Both seemed to work equally well and I didn't notice any anomalies, but I wasn't looking for problems.
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Generally with a QF booking including codeshares on BA metal, two Amadeus PNR's are generated. Those seat selections for BA metal flights are best done with the BA PNR.
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Likewise a BA booking with a codeshare on QF metal will generate two Amadeus PNR's (have just completed one).
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It's also effectively a single website but with customisations/configurations around each individual customer (eg QF).
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Whilst I agree with the two file keys reference in your post, you do realise Amadeus is effectively one monolithic platform hosted by Amadeus itself? It might be divided up between customers, but it's still the same platform. It's also the reason why QF and BA can see each others bookings as long as the appropriate PNR is given.
It's also effectively a single website but with customisations/configurations around each individual customer (eg QF).
It's also effectively a single website but with customisations/configurations around each individual customer (eg QF).
ALTEA is more than a distribution system. QF is one of the Key customers of the ALTEA Suite.
http://www.amadeus.com/airlineit/sol...ol_1altea.html
Not all Airlines use the same modules of the ALTEA Suite, some use the just the classic distribution system.
http://www.amadeus.com/airlinedistribution/index.html
The main issue of an E-Ticket and an reservation system is that it is common between the partnering airlines:
- Be careful ticketing and reservation systems are two different parts!
- Airlines with Interline Agreements should have the possibility to access reservations and tickets!
This is the main feature of network carriers in contrast to Low Cost Carriers.
These use standalone reservation and ticketing systems (like http://www.navitaire.com/). These offer limited connectivity to other systems.
OK if an reservation covers two different reservation systems they are usually held in both systems: LX and LH is a classic example. LH uses Amadeus and LX uses AxRes (old system but LX likes it). So Reservations in both systems are created - usually you get two filekeys. Problems come up if you change one reservation and the change is not copied to the other one. For example: You can access the Amadeus Reservation of an LX flight and set a seat reservation on the LH-Homepage in the Amadeus System. You get it confirmed, but the LX System simply ignores it! Even worse are those shadow systems that cover Low-Cost Carriers! Connecting a GDS to a LCC is like making a pig flying, but they try it everyday!
To our BA/QF Example: Both use two different Amadeus Systems (IIRC QF has the latest system with all the bells and whistles). The twin PNR work quite good: One filekey for BA flights and the other one for QF flights.
My last flights were in November 2012 - things can change quite fast.
If BA would migrate to the same system - that would be obsolete.
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I'm well aware of all of this, but on this occasion we are talking about the GDS and not the PSS.
I'm probably a little more aware of Navitare than you may think.
I'm probably a little more aware of Navitare than you may think.
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