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Old Oct 4, 2022, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by BlondeBomber
Thanks for the info on this and related fares from NYC area to CGK.

I had specific dates I had to be in Indonesia so may not have the best deal but still worked out well in my opinion anyway ($2670 USD all fees/taxes included). I also opted for better connection times (less stress) and airports I am familiar with or which seem to have fewer issues (now and in the past).

Chose EWR -(UA) SEA -(NH) NRT -(NH) CGK outbound and CGK -(NH) NRT -(UA) LAX -(UA) EWR inbound. I added Canada to EWR using flight pass credits I need to use before year end and I have a short hop to Bali DPS from CGK for $200 which works well into my schedule.
Are you able to route it to Bali from CGK ? Is that a separate trip ? Link please itinerary. What is the reason for the additional $200, the stopover charges ? $100 per stopover? so two stopovers ?


IF TRAVEL COMMENCES ON/BEFORE 31DEC22.
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
EACH DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH
NONE IN GUAM/CHINA
IN AREA 3
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
IF TRAVEL COMMENCES ON/AFTER 01JAN23.
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
EACH DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH
NONE IN GUAM
IN AREA 3
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
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Old Oct 4, 2022, 5:04 am
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Originally Posted by Quail
This is a great fare and has a lot of routing flexibility (I've booked a few with 14 segments). It is discussed in depth in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prem...-business.html.
Why link to the AA/JL/QF spin off when this is the NH/UA/*A fare? Surely the fares are different.

Is there another bigger and more detailed discussion thread on this NH/UA.*A fare NYC-CGK via TYO ?
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Old Oct 4, 2022, 8:40 am
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Saw the double stopovers on some Facebook post, here is a sample with Stopover in Tokyo and Seoul with a day in Jakarta...

Probably can be improved, it has UA across the Pacific on the return and it seems Asiana runs a recliner 330 between CGK-ICN...

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Old Oct 4, 2022, 8:58 am
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V FARE BASIS BK FARE TRAVEL-TICKET AP MINMAX RTG
1 PLE00EOP P R 2300.00 ---- -/‡ ‡‡/ 6M PA01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT AUTO PRICE-YES
FROM-NYC TO-JKT CXR-NH TVL-01FEB23 RULE-2DNW IPRP/3
FARE BASIS-PLE00EOP SPECIAL FARE DIS-E VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BXN RT-BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION NON REFUNDABLE
USD 2300.00 0502 E08JUL22 D-INFINITY FC-PLE00EOP FN-
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 07JUL22/1728 EXPIRES INFINITY

PUBLISHED RTG NYC-JKT/NH502 /TAR-TPRG EF-08JUL22 DIS-INDEF

/VIA THE PACIFIC/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
1. NYC-UA/NH-WAS/NYC/MEX/EWR/DEN-UA/NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/HA-OGG/
MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/NH/HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/
NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-JKT
2. NYC-UA/NH-WAS/NYC/EWR-UA/NH-WAS/NYC/EWR/CHI-UA/NH-HOU/DEN-
UA/NH-LAS-UA/NH-SJC/SFO/LAX-UA/NH-SJC/SFO/SEA/MEX/LAX-UA/
NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/NH/
HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-JKT
3. NYC-UA/NH-WAS/NYC/EWR/CHI-UA/NH-HOU/DEN-UA/NH-LAS-UA/NH-
SJC/SFO/LAX-UA/NH-SJC/SFO/SEA/MEX/LAX-UA/NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/
HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/NH/HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/
OSA-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-JKT
4. NYC-UA/NH-HOU/DEN-UA/NH-LAS-UA/NH-SJC/SFO/LAX-UA/NH-SJC/
SFO/SEA/MEX/LAX-UA/NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/
JHM/ITO-WP/UA/NH/HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-
JKT
5. NYC-UA/NH-SNA-UA/NH-MEX-UA/NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/
LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/NH/HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-TYO/
OSA-UA/NH-JKT
6. NYC-UA/NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/
UA/NH/HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-JKT
7. NYC-UA/NH-WAS/NYC/EWR-UA/NH-WAS-B6-NYC-UA/NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/
HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/NH/HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/
OSA-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-JKT
8. NYC-UA/NH-WAS-B6-NYC-UA/NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/
LIH/KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/NH/HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-TYO/
OSA-UA/NH-JKT
9. NYC-UA/NH/B6-WAS-UA/NH-HNL-WP/UA/NH/HA-OGG/MKK/LNY/LIH/
KOA/JHM/ITO-WP/UA/NH/HA-HNL-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-UA/NH-TYO/OSA-
UA/NH-JKT

Can someone help me understand this ? I dont speak Aeroplane language.
1. What does RTG means ? and TAR-TPRAG means?

2. Why does this published fare is $2,300 while we can only see $2,475+ (as indicated from the title of this thread). Is $2,300 the travel agent's discounted fares ? The Consolidator's fares?

3. I am going to take the first route... what does "/" and "-" means? Why sometimes its Airport code and sometimes City code. But there can be other routes as well rite? Why this 9 routes... and

I assume it says DEPART New York City with United Airlines/ANA from Washington - what does that means? Could someone translate into normal human language what does route 1 means? Did it say Mexico ? I cant imagine anyone flying from NYC to Mexico... then to Hawaii then to tokyo then to osaka then find his way to Jakarta... And you can only do one stopover each direction. So everything else will have to be a layover.

4. As shown above .... How does Seoul fit into this route? It doesnt say anything about SEL. Is that list of possible routes incomplete?

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Old Oct 4, 2022, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by Bleuprince16
Why link to the AA/JL/QF spin off when this is the NH/UA/*A fare? Surely the fares are different.

Is there another bigger and more detailed discussion thread on this NH/UA.*A fare NYC-CGK via TYO ?
Yes, that is the thread has the detailed discussion of this fare. The UA fare was a match/discovered later, hence the thread title.
I know it's long, but actually reading through it would probably save you time vs re-discovering what has already been discussed there.

4. As shown above .... How does Seoul fit into this route? It doesnt say anything about SEL. Is that list of possible routes incomplete?
The NH fare is less interesting; I'm not aware of a good reason to use it (unless there are availability issues) since the UA fare can be ticketed on NH stock. See the other thread for details.
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 9:25 am
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NYC-CGK Business: United/ANA $2673
Goes from Nov-June and some dates $100 cheaper (in 2023). But nice flight to grab status on before the holidays. Linked price is $2620. Depending on date selected can mix it up with United/ANA or all ANA.

https://www.google.com/travel/flight...RG5weEE9EgIIAQ
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 9:42 am
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 10:02 am
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If you select JFK as the departure airport, you could fly with ANA new business class "The Room".
could add a stopover in TYO/HKG/SIN for only $100-150
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Old Oct 25, 2022, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Bleuprince16
Are you able to route it to Bali from CGK ? Is that a separate trip ? Link please itinerary. What is the reason for the additional $200, the stopover charges ? $100 per stopover? so two stopovers ?
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Sorry for delay in answering. Extra to Bali was a separate ticket in econo $200 on Garuda. All worked out OK. Worst parts of trip were on UA but NH was excellent in every aspect. I had no stopovers that I used for my NYC-CGK ticket. Just showing that I could get creative with leftover credits to hook me up to NYC and travel in comfort on NH/UA even if UA was vastly inferior (my opinion) to NH.
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Old Oct 27, 2022, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by vji
careful as NRT-CGK is not lie-flat on ANA later in the schedule.
But HND-CGK is

This thread should probably be merged with the existing *A thread on this fare that's been around for a year though.
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Old Oct 27, 2022, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
This thread should probably be merged with the existing *A thread on this fare that's been around for a year though.
Are you thinking of the AA/JAL thread?​​​​​​​
​​​​​​​I haven't seen any other *A thread for this fare.
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Old Oct 27, 2022, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by night718
Are you thinking of the AA/JAL thread?
​​​​​​​I haven't seen any other *A thread for this fare.
I was thinking of this one, which became the reverse once people realize the opposite routing was also possible.

SQ: One Way - CGK- JFK Business $1464

​​​​​​​Maybe different enough to remain with the current title though, agreed. Forgot it originated as the inverse.
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Old Nov 21, 2022, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by vji
careful as NRT-CGK is not lie-flat on ANA later in the schedule.
My NRT-CGK flight next week just updated from 788 to 789 lie-flat.
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Old Dec 4, 2022, 2:55 pm
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This seems a very good deal.

Anyone knows until what date this deal will last?
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