EK First BKK HKG Return USD $850
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Join Date: Aug 2022
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EK First BKK HKG Return USD $850
1. I know HKG is not a tempting holiday destination atm. As far as I know, there is currently a 3 days hotel quarantine in Hong Kong.
2. But how to make this deal even better with advanced combinability ? I saw a similar EK First from a past forum post back in 2020 (but links and fare prices expired) and the fare rules seems slightly different too. Back in 2020 EK First Class BKK-HKG, HKG-DXB, DXB-MCT, MCT-HKG, HKG-BKK was Euro 1,980. I wasn't able to duplicate the itinerary
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/prem...a-hkg-dxb.html
3. Anyone have any ideas/ suggestions to make this a better deal ?
Fare code: AEEESTH1

Category 8: Stopover restrictions
UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
NONE IN DXB.
A STOPOVER MAY NOT EXCEED 7 DAYS.
NOTE -
STOPOVERS ARE PERMITTED ONLY AT THE CITIES
MENTIONED IN THE ROUTING ATTACHED.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
NO TRANSFERS PERMITTED
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE
FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH EK
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Y-FTH1/W-FTH1/O-PTH1/J-FTH1/
C-FTH1/I-STH1/F-FTH1/A-STH1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN
ANY PUBLIC TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOTE -
END ON END WITH EK ARABIAN AIR PASS PERMITTED .
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO ISRAEL
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO SUDAN
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO LEBANON
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO BRAZIL
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO ZIMBABWE
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO VENEZUELA
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO ANGOLA
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO ETHIOPIA
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO NIGERIA
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO CAMEROON
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER QF
Category 12: Surcharges
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN INDIA.
A SURCHARGE OF INR 300 PER TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE
APPLICABLE FARE PER ADULT/CHILD/INFANT FOR TRAVEL.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN BANGLADESH.
A SURCHARGE OF 9 PERCENT OF THE FARE PER TICKET WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. APPLIES PER
ADULT. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN BANGLADESH.
A SURCHARGE OF 9 PERCENT OF THE FARE PER TICKET WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EK AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN SUDAN/
VENEZUELA/MALAWI/IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF/ETHIOPIA/ANGOLA/
NIGERIA/CAMEROON/GABON/CHAD/CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE)/ARGENTINA/
SRI LANKA/EGYPT
IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK
ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY FZ
ANY FZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY FZ
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EK OR FZ AND MAY NOT BE SOLD
IN SUDAN/VENEZUELA/MALAWI/IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF/
ETHIOPIA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA/CAMEROON/GABON/CHAD/CONGO
(BRAZZAVILLE)/ARGENTINA/SRI LANKA/EGYPT
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EK OR HR AND MAY NOT BE
SOLD IN SUDAN/VENEZUELA/MALAWI/IRAN,ISLAMIC
REPUBLIC OF/ETHIOPIA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA/CAMEROON/GABON/
CHAD/CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE)/ARGENTINA/SRI LANKA/EGYPT
Category 16: Penalties
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE -
CHARGE THB 4000 FOR NO-SHOW.
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR REFUND.
NOTE -
CHARGE THB 6000 FOR NO-SHOW.
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM THAILAND.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/PREMIUM ECONOMY/
ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW
JOURNEYS.
THESE FARES MAY NOT BE USED FOR INDIVIDUAL AND GROUP
INCLUSIVE TOURS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
OTHER CONDITIONS
PNR WITH FICTITIOUS TICKET NUMBERS OR NAMES WILL
BE SUBJECT TO A CHARGE OF USD 100 PER PASSENGER.
--------
ALL FARES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE OR WITHDRAWAL
WITHOUT NOTICE.
FARES ARE ONLY GUARANTEED IF AUTO-PRICED AND
TICKETED IN GDS ON THE SAME DAY.
--------
E-TICKETS PERMITTED ON ELIGIBLE ROUTINGS
2. But how to make this deal even better with advanced combinability ? I saw a similar EK First from a past forum post back in 2020 (but links and fare prices expired) and the fare rules seems slightly different too. Back in 2020 EK First Class BKK-HKG, HKG-DXB, DXB-MCT, MCT-HKG, HKG-BKK was Euro 1,980. I wasn't able to duplicate the itinerary

3. Anyone have any ideas/ suggestions to make this a better deal ?
Fare code: AEEESTH1

Category 8: Stopover restrictions
UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
NONE IN DXB.
A STOPOVER MAY NOT EXCEED 7 DAYS.
NOTE -
STOPOVERS ARE PERMITTED ONLY AT THE CITIES
MENTIONED IN THE ROUTING ATTACHED.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
NO TRANSFERS PERMITTED
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE
FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH EK
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY Y-FTH1/W-FTH1/O-PTH1/J-FTH1/
C-FTH1/I-STH1/F-FTH1/A-STH1 TYPE FARES WITH ANY RULE IN
ANY PUBLIC TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOTE -
END ON END WITH EK ARABIAN AIR PASS PERMITTED .
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO ISRAEL
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO SUDAN
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO LEBANON
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO BRAZIL
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO ZIMBABWE
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO VENEZUELA
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO ANGOLA
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO ETHIOPIA
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO NIGERIA
OR FOR ANY CARRIER FROM/TO CAMEROON
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER QF
Category 12: Surcharges
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN INDIA.
A SURCHARGE OF INR 300 PER TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE
APPLICABLE FARE PER ADULT/CHILD/INFANT FOR TRAVEL.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN BANGLADESH.
A SURCHARGE OF 9 PERCENT OF THE FARE PER TICKET WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. APPLIES PER
ADULT. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN BANGLADESH.
A SURCHARGE OF 9 PERCENT OF THE FARE PER TICKET WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EK AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN SUDAN/
VENEZUELA/MALAWI/IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF/ETHIOPIA/ANGOLA/
NIGERIA/CAMEROON/GABON/CHAD/CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE)/ARGENTINA/
SRI LANKA/EGYPT
IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK
ANY EK FLIGHT OPERATED BY FZ
ANY FZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY FZ
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EK OR FZ AND MAY NOT BE SOLD
IN SUDAN/VENEZUELA/MALAWI/IRAN,ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF/
ETHIOPIA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA/CAMEROON/GABON/CHAD/CONGO
(BRAZZAVILLE)/ARGENTINA/SRI LANKA/EGYPT
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON EK OR HR AND MAY NOT BE
SOLD IN SUDAN/VENEZUELA/MALAWI/IRAN,ISLAMIC
REPUBLIC OF/ETHIOPIA/ANGOLA/NIGERIA/CAMEROON/GABON/
CHAD/CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE)/ARGENTINA/SRI LANKA/EGYPT
Category 16: Penalties
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE -
CHARGE THB 4000 FOR NO-SHOW.
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR REFUND.
NOTE -
CHARGE THB 6000 FOR NO-SHOW.
Category 50: Application
CIRCULAR FARES FROM THAILANDAPPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM THAILAND.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/PREMIUM ECONOMY/
ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW
JOURNEYS.
THESE FARES MAY NOT BE USED FOR INDIVIDUAL AND GROUP
INCLUSIVE TOURS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
OTHER CONDITIONS
PNR WITH FICTITIOUS TICKET NUMBERS OR NAMES WILL
BE SUBJECT TO A CHARGE OF USD 100 PER PASSENGER.
--------
ALL FARES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE OR WITHDRAWAL
WITHOUT NOTICE.
FARES ARE ONLY GUARANTEED IF AUTO-PRICED AND
TICKETED IN GDS ON THE SAME DAY.
--------
E-TICKETS PERMITTED ON ELIGIBLE ROUTINGS
#2
Join Date: Dec 2001
Programs: AA PLT 2MM
Posts: 567
The fare rules read "no transfers permitted", so this would only work on the BKK-HKG nonstop. (I remember taking this route on EK ~20 years ago... at the time for $500 one way I could fly CX Y or EK J. Times have changed!)
#3
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: NZ
Posts: 1,470
All the other routes from the 2020 thread (eg BKK/MCT, BKK/BAH etc) are now considerably more expensive as EK massively hiked YQ surcharges earlier this year (or last year?) making nearly all premium cabin fares considerably more expensive. For some reason the BKK/HKG fare doesn't have a YQ tax so it seems to have escaped a major fare increase. Unfortunately at the moment there are no EK F bargains, except perhaps this BKK/HKG fare. Even award tickets attract mouthwateringly high taxes and surcharges due to the YQ increases.
#4
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: New York, NY
Programs: AA ExPl, DL PM, UA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium, probably some others
Posts: 3,723
All the other routes from the 2020 thread (eg BKK/MCT, BKK/BAH etc) are now considerably more expensive as EK massively hiked YQ surcharges earlier this year (or last year?) making nearly all premium cabin fares considerably more expensive. For some reason the BKK/HKG fare doesn't have a YQ tax so it seems to have escaped a major fare increase. Unfortunately at the moment there are no EK F bargains, except perhaps this BKK/HKG fare. Even award tickets attract mouthwateringly high taxes and surcharges due to the YQ increases.
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Location: Helsinki
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