[PREM FARE GONE] AA:JL:QF spin off JFK LAX TYO SYD CGK £2550 business
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Considering QF HND-SYD-CGK in C/D/I earns 100% base miles + 25% cabin bonus, the base fare and carrier-imposed fees allocated to AA JFK-LAX-HND in R would have to be significantly more than QF HND-SYD-CGK in C despite a similar distance.
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Bookable example of one of the "fun" *A routings:
gcmap
I haven't seen any bookable examples with the TPE-CGK routings (had issues finding D space on that leg).
gcmap
I haven't seen any bookable examples with the TPE-CGK routings (had issues finding D space on that leg).
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Would you not earn more LPs overall on a bulk/consolidator fare or vacation package despite a more direct routing? AA JFK-LAX-HND-CGK in R earns 100% base miles + 50% cabin bonus.
Considering QF HND-SYD-CGK in C/D/I earns 100% base miles + 25% cabin bonus, the base fare and carrier-imposed fees allocated to AA JFK-LAX-HND in R would have to be significantly more than QF HND-SYD-CGK in C despite a similar distance.
Considering QF HND-SYD-CGK in C/D/I earns 100% base miles + 25% cabin bonus, the base fare and carrier-imposed fees allocated to AA JFK-LAX-HND in R would have to be significantly more than QF HND-SYD-CGK in C despite a similar distance.
If you can find a way to get a bulk fare, sure it would be great, but CGK isn't included in AA Vacations (I checked of course). And if you have a way to get that as a bulk fare, please do share as I'd be interested.
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Holy cow, I didn't notice that QF C dips to 100% + 25% on non-North American routes. OK, that completely blows that out of the water. I'd have to recalculate now but think the more direct route in JL I is better. <br /><br />If you can find a way to get a bulk fare, sure it would be great, but CGK isn't included in AA Vacations (I checked of course). And if you have a way to get that as a bulk fare, please do share as I'd be interested.
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CGK is included in AA Vacations. You need to first search for a trip to another city (HAN for example) and then, when the results come up, modify the search to CGK.
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If this is available for Matrix can you advise how to complete to see mileage credits as well as play with dates and other options?
Bookable example of one of the "fun" *A routings:
gcmap
I haven't seen any bookable examples with the TPE-CGK routings (had issues finding D space on that leg).
gcmap
I haven't seen any bookable examples with the TPE-CGK routings (had issues finding D space on that leg).
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Then put the mileage into excel and find what your program calculates status miles at for each airline being used on each leg. You can see the airline right after the leg number (eg 1 UA = leg 1 on United). If it says "Operated by" on the line below, then it is on that airline, not the one in the flight number. You can see the fare booking code after the flight number (eg 1 UA1431P = fare bucket P, 6 OZ752Z = fare bucket Z on Asiana, etc)
There is incredibly limited availability on this exact route (unless you are good with much longer stopovers) as finding both P fares to/from Hawaii on same dates as P fares to/from Asia is quite tough atm
To put this onto matrix, you would need to do a multi-city search and break it up at a few key points (SFO, ICN, CGK) other combos will work too, but its hard to finesse this as presumably this is one of the much tougher lookups for ITA Matrix
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The quickest would be to open the GC map link posted under the screenshot
Then put the mileage into excel and find what your program calculates status miles at for each airline being used on each leg. You can see the airline right after the leg number (eg 1 UA = leg 1 on United). If it says "Operated by" on the line below, then it is on that airline, not the one in the flight number. You can see the fare booking code after the flight number (eg 1 UA1431P = fare bucket P, 6 OZ752Z = fare bucket Z on Asiana, etc)
There is incredibly limited availability on this exact route (unless you are good with much longer stopovers) as finding both P fares to/from Hawaii on same dates as P fares to/from Asia is quite tough atm
To put this onto matrix, you would need to do a multi-city search and break it up at a few key points (SFO, ICN, CGK) other combos will work too, but its hard to finesse this as presumably this is one of the much tougher lookups for ITA Matrix
Then put the mileage into excel and find what your program calculates status miles at for each airline being used on each leg. You can see the airline right after the leg number (eg 1 UA = leg 1 on United). If it says "Operated by" on the line below, then it is on that airline, not the one in the flight number. You can see the fare booking code after the flight number (eg 1 UA1431P = fare bucket P, 6 OZ752Z = fare bucket Z on Asiana, etc)
There is incredibly limited availability on this exact route (unless you are good with much longer stopovers) as finding both P fares to/from Hawaii on same dates as P fares to/from Asia is quite tough atm
To put this onto matrix, you would need to do a multi-city search and break it up at a few key points (SFO, ICN, CGK) other combos will work too, but its hard to finesse this as presumably this is one of the much tougher lookups for ITA Matrix
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I'm curious where the true GDS and airline systems die or break when marrying inventory to price this. Matrix will insert breaks however you search multi-city, which willnot necessarily be honored by the marketing carrier, but on the other hand I struggle to believe the real computer can actually meaningfully marry your EWR-LAX-LIH-SFO-NRT-SIN-ICN-CGK as a single component. UA and Asian *A carriers aren't particular bad about married inventory anyway, so it might just be moot. I have not bothered trying to find inventory for this one, just because it seems like it would be hard (and reports here confirm).