AA: JFK-BKK $2409 RT Business
Jan 31, 2022, 7:03 am
#47
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: CGK/KOA
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From the link above:
"Senior minister, Luhut Pandjaitan, said from Feb. 4 international visitors who were vaccinated against COVID-19 would still be required to do between five and seven days of quarantine."
Was hoping to find mention of GOVT considering 2 day quarantine.
"Senior minister, Luhut Pandjaitan, said from Feb. 4 international visitors who were vaccinated against COVID-19 would still be required to do between five and seven days of quarantine."
Was hoping to find mention of GOVT considering 2 day quarantine.
Jan 31, 2022, 8:02 am
#48
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Completely agree with this. I work for a very large expat employer in Jakarta, and many of my colleagues have been burned trying to get home on JL due to HND and NRT transits.
What is a good source you use to check current policy? I haven't found one I've liked (frequent updates).
What is a good source you use to check current policy? I haven't found one I've liked (frequent updates).
Jan 31, 2022, 9:14 am
#49
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Burned as in trying to do HND/NRT transits versus NRT/NRT or HND/HND transits? I could be clueless, but I thought transits within the same airport had been allowed for most of the pandemic period. However, NRT/HND transits have pretty much been off limits the whole time I thought.
Jan 31, 2022, 12:11 pm
#50
Join Date: May 2006
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I was able to put the JFK-LAX-BOS-NRT-BKK r/t on hold at AA.com with J codes for the 4 domestic legs. The layovers at BOS aren't ideal though.
For AS that would be 49114 EQM and 85804 RDM miles as a 75k.
For AS that would be 49114 EQM and 85804 RDM miles as a 75k.
Jan 31, 2022, 2:20 pm
#52
Join Date: May 2007
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If the RT fare has gone up when you're trying to change the return date, you'll end up needing to pay the higher fare to make the change.
Jan 31, 2022, 2:30 pm
#53
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
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Code:
PENALTIES *SPECIAL EMERGENCY RULES
*SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT ANYTIME
FOR TICKETING ON/BEFORE 31MAR21/FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER
01MAR20 AND ON/BEFORE 31MAR21
IF TRAVEL ON THIS FARE COMPONENT MUST COMMENCE BY
MIDNIGHT ON 31MAR22.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
TICKETS ISSUED ON/AFTER 01OCT20 ARE VALID FOR
1 YEAR FROM DATE OF ISSUE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE ORIGINAL NON REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON REFUNDABLE.
CHANGES PERMITTED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE
TIME OF EACH FLIGHT.
----
TICKETS AT THESE FARES MAY NOT BE REVALIDATED.
TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED. FARE DIFFERENCE AND
CHANGE FEE MUST BE PAID AND TICKETS MUST BE
REISSUED WHEN ITINERARY IS REBOOKED.
----
A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
MODIFICATION.
CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY AS
FOLLOWS. 1/WHOLLY UNUSED TICKETS ARE VALID
PROVIDED TRAVEL COMMENCES WITHIN 18MONTHS FROM
THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE AND ALL TRAVEL
COMPLETED BY 31MAR22 OR 2/ PARTIALLY USED TICKETS
ARE VALID PROVIDED TRAVEL IS COMPLETED WITHIN
18MONTHS OR BY 31MAR22 WHICHEVER COMES FIRST FROM
THE OUTBOUND TRAVEL DATE ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET.
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WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE AND
ONLY ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE PENALTY
CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT WILL
APPLY.
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WILL APPLY.
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WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE
THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE ADD COLLECTED AND THE
CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY.
----
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE REFUNDED TO A TRAVEL
VOUCHER FOR TRAVEL ON AA ONLY.
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CALCULATION FOR REISSUES
//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS
REISSUED.
OR REPRICE THE ITINERARY USING THE SAME FARE
BASIS CODES AND RULES AS THOSE IN EFFECT ON
THE DATE OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUANCE FOR
UNCHANGED OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENTS AND USING
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF NEW TICKET
ISSUANCE FOR ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
--------------------------------------------------
//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
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THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE - I.E. ADVANCE
RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY ETC.
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WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
PRICING UNIT APPLIES
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
REFUND.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
IN THE CASE OF THE DEATH OF THE PASSENGER/
OR A TRAVELING COMPANION/THE SERVICE CHARGE MAY
BE WAIVED OR THE TICKET REFUNDED.
VISIT AA.COM FOR DETAILS.
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FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 50.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELLED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
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WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH CANCELLED
PRICING UNIT APPLIES
-WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION-
WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A NON-
REFUNDABLE FARE
THE ENTIRE PRICING UNIT WILL BE NON-REFUNDABLE.
------------------------------------------------
TICKET HAS NO VALUE UNLESS TICKETED FLIGHTS ARE
CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / OR DATE / OR FLIGHT
MODIFICATION.
CHANGE IS PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY OF
ORIGINAL TICKET.
TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED FOR ALL VOLUNTARY
CHANGES.
--------------------------------------------------
WHERE THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH ANOTHER FARE THE
PENALTY CONDITIONS OF THE CHANGED FARE COMPONENT
WILL APPLY.
--------------------------------------------------
CALCULATION OF REISSUES
//CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE//
WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING CURRENT FARES
IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
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WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR
CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF TICKET
REISSUE WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
--------------------------------------------------
//CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE//
THE ITINERARY MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
-----
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE
THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED.
-----
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE A
REFUND OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT LESS THE APPLICABLE
PENALTY WILL BE MADE.
-----
REISSUES/EXCHANGES NOT ALLOWED TO EOU/ERU FARE
TYPES.
Code:
VOLUNTARY CHANGES IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE FOR REISSUE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL
CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
3. AA/JL/QF FARES ARE USED
4. AA ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
3. ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA
VOUCHER
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
NO CHARGE FOR REISSUE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED
FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
MUST BE DOMESTIC
2. AA/JL/QF FARES ARE USED
3. AA ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA
VOUCHER
ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
ENDORSEMENTS.
Jan 31, 2022, 7:13 pm
#56
Join Date: Jan 2000
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Feb 1, 2022, 6:43 am
#57
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Posts: 7,039
Feb 1, 2022, 7:27 am
#58
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MIA
Posts: 498
Can you share your routing dates and EQM breakdown. As a gold, I might jump to get up to 75k now.
Feb 1, 2022, 8:15 am
#59
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Posts: 78
Can you please share routing dates. Appreciate the help in advance.
Feb 1, 2022, 9:09 am
#60
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 74
Read the changes after departure rules, If I understand this correctly, that means if I book an outbound for may and return for december for now, I can fly the outbound as is and then change the outbound dates based on prices from today? That sounds like it would work out great for me.