AF/KL/DL/VS: MAD/HEL to US Biz - from $1100
#76
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
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I am looking at HEL-SJC in October. I am American living in AMS and vaccinated. There is an option with a night time stopover in AMS. I have 2 Q's:
If I fly to HEL can I take the same flight that will be the first leg of my HEL-AMS-LAX-SJC journey or would I need to actually go back out to the check in desk for health screening and such? Recently I have not been allocated a boarding pass when checking in online.
After night time stopover in AMS, assume I will need to again pass the check in desk and at that point will be allowed to check in a bag if desired?
Many thanks!
If I fly to HEL can I take the same flight that will be the first leg of my HEL-AMS-LAX-SJC journey or would I need to actually go back out to the check in desk for health screening and such? Recently I have not been allocated a boarding pass when checking in online.
After night time stopover in AMS, assume I will need to again pass the check in desk and at that point will be allowed to check in a bag if desired?
Many thanks!
Regarding the option to check-in your luggage in AMS the next day, this is certainly an option, especially considering your transfer is overnight. Just proceed at the SkyPriority counter in AMS.
Safe travels,
#77
Join Date: May 2013
Location: FRA-ish
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It’s not as cheap as some of the deals, but I just booked 2 people MAD-CDG-ATL-MSY-JFK-MAD for €1339 each. We’ll be going for the Rock N Roll New Orleans marathon if it happens. AF A350 westbound, DL 763 eastbound.
#78
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: BER
Programs: BAEC, M&M
Posts: 529
I am looking at HEL-SJC in October. I am American living in AMS and vaccinated. There is an option with a night time stopover in AMS. I have 2 Q's:
If I fly to HEL can I take the same flight that will be the first leg of my HEL-AMS-LAX-SJC journey or would I need to actually go back out to the check in desk for health screening and such? Recently I have not been allocated a boarding pass when checking in online.
After night time stopover in AMS, assume I will need to again pass the check in desk and at that point will be allowed to check in a bag if desired?
Many thanks!
If I fly to HEL can I take the same flight that will be the first leg of my HEL-AMS-LAX-SJC journey or would I need to actually go back out to the check in desk for health screening and such? Recently I have not been allocated a boarding pass when checking in online.
After night time stopover in AMS, assume I will need to again pass the check in desk and at that point will be allowed to check in a bag if desired?
Many thanks!
#79
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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#80
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 19
True, but I am gold currently with KLM and this would take me to Platinum.. Perhaps spend a bit more and go via BCN, combining that with a visit with a friend of mine there..
#81
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: London / Amsterdam
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 188
I have a question on this fare;
Originally booked a trip to LAX with a single stop in the US, two approx. equally long DL flights, but bought through AFKL.
Now on both outbound and inbound DL has changed the schedule for the flight to LAX.
Would this allow me to change the iternary without any additional cost to let's say one that has one short flight, connecting AMS/CDG and then a long one to LAX for free?
This has my preference, but the fare was not available earlier for the lower price and also books in to I class currently.
I tried searching for this specific case in AF/KL policies, but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the help.
Originally booked a trip to LAX with a single stop in the US, two approx. equally long DL flights, but bought through AFKL.
Now on both outbound and inbound DL has changed the schedule for the flight to LAX.
Would this allow me to change the iternary without any additional cost to let's say one that has one short flight, connecting AMS/CDG and then a long one to LAX for free?
This has my preference, but the fare was not available earlier for the lower price and also books in to I class currently.
I tried searching for this specific case in AF/KL policies, but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the help.
#84
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
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I have a question on this fare;
Originally booked a trip to LAX with a single stop in the US, two approx. equally long DL flights, but bought through AFKL.
Now on both outbound and inbound DL has changed the schedule for the flight to LAX.
Would this allow me to change the iternary without any additional cost to let's say one that has one short flight, connecting AMS/CDG and then a long one to LAX for free?
This has my preference, but the fare was not available earlier for the lower price and also books in to I class currently.
I tried searching for this specific case in AF/KL policies, but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the help.
Originally booked a trip to LAX with a single stop in the US, two approx. equally long DL flights, but bought through AFKL.
Now on both outbound and inbound DL has changed the schedule for the flight to LAX.
Would this allow me to change the iternary without any additional cost to let's say one that has one short flight, connecting AMS/CDG and then a long one to LAX for free?
This has my preference, but the fare was not available earlier for the lower price and also books in to I class currently.
I tried searching for this specific case in AF/KL policies, but couldn't find it.
Thanks for the help.
#86
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: London / Amsterdam
Programs: Flying Blue
Posts: 188
It's not a couple of minutes, but not that big of change either. But, I'm happy to argue I'm not comfortable with the transfer time and the earlier departure back
#88
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: AMS, LHR
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Posts: 666
Looks like Delta killed their MAD-ATL flight for the winter. Leaves MAD-JFK as the only feeder into the US, which leaves early enough that it makes same day positioning nearly impossible. What are the chances I get them to switch me to BCN-JFK (which leaves considerably later)? I'll probably wait some time to call in as I expect schedules are still in flux...a bit irritated they kill a key feeder just days after a major sale on these routings.
#89
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Location: Netherlands
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The earlier departure from LAX is more inconvenient indeed; no harm in ringing up and finding out what they can do for you.
As regards your apparent desire to be rebooked onto a new routing via AMS/CDG, I am not sure if you can demand that (without being subject to a re-price), but nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Please report back with the outcome of your call to AFKL!!
#90
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The "earlier departure to LAX" shouldn't really be an issue; you always have to clear customs and immigration upon arrival in the US, so it is always a fact that passengers frequently miss their onward connections; it's no biggie, and and you will always be put on the next available flight. For this reason alone, I wouldn't bother seeking a change. A 2 hour transfer should be doable, particularly as you're in business and will be among the first to get off the plane and into the immigration queue.
The earlier departure from LAX is more inconvenient indeed; no harm in ringing up and finding out what they can do for you.
As regards your apparent desire to be rebooked onto a new routing via AMS/CDG, I am not sure if you can demand that (without being subject to a re-price), but nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Please report back with the outcome of your call to AFKL!!
The earlier departure from LAX is more inconvenient indeed; no harm in ringing up and finding out what they can do for you.
As regards your apparent desire to be rebooked onto a new routing via AMS/CDG, I am not sure if you can demand that (without being subject to a re-price), but nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Please report back with the outcome of your call to AFKL!!