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AA JAL: NYC/HAN; CGK $2,400 into R

AA JAL: NYC/HAN; CGK $2,400 into R

Old Mar 8, 21, 6:55 am
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AA JAL: NYC/HAN; CGK $2,400 into R

Japan Airlines and American have a nice sales on Business class (book into R) from New York to Hanoi or Jakarta for $2,400. One stop flights on JAL will result the Airport change in Tokyo from NRT to HND. On AA, the transfer can be via Seoul, Hongkong or Tokyo. The transfer in Tokyo can be in NRT without changing airport. Available all year until end of calendar (very limited in July and December). With AA you can only book into Jan 2022, with JAL the booking can be until March 2022. Google flight doesnt provide lot of connecting options. Searching directly on AA would give more choices.

Google flights: https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gBEAAYAA&gl=us
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Old Mar 8, 21, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by A13743 View Post
Japan Airlines and American have a nice sales on Business class (book into R) from New York to Hanoi or Jakarta for $2,400. One stop flights on JAL will result the Airport change in Tokyo from NRT to HND. On AA, the transfer can be via Seoul, Hongkong or Tokyo.
Transfers via HKG will result in CX from HKG to HAN or Jakarta. HKG-HAN is definitely flown by regional aircrafts fitted with non-flat lying biz seats. Not sure about HKG to Jakarta.
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Old Mar 8, 21, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Barkinpark View Post
Transfers via HKG will result in CX from HKG to HAN or Jakarta. HKG-HAN is definitely flown by regional aircrafts fitted with non-flat lying biz seats. Not sure about HKG to Jakarta.
You may get the 333 with flat seat configuration on both routes.

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Old Mar 8, 21, 4:05 pm
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HKG-HAN is 526 miles or less than a ORD-DCA.
Pre-Covid I was never a fan of the NRT-HND shuffle now you risk closed borders so would HIGHLY advise against airport changes...
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Old Mar 9, 21, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Barkinpark View Post
Transfers via HKG will result in CX from HKG to HAN or Jakarta. HKG-HAN is definitely flown by regional aircrafts fitted with non-flat lying biz seats. Not sure about HKG to Jakarta.
Flew that routing shortly before Covid and it was serviced by a recently delivered A321. Lounger seats similar to US Domestic first.
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Old Mar 10, 21, 6:07 am
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Can you also post the EQM/EQD/RDM information here. That will be helpful.
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Old Mar 10, 21, 7:36 am
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currently 359 is used for HKGCGK route, but who knows when covid ends (or going to end)...
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Old Mar 10, 21, 7:55 am
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When I flew HKG-CGK on CX in Jan 2020, it was a 330.
In the future, who knows?
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Old Mar 10, 21, 10:48 am
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There is no point to guessing the equipment CX will use on regional flights--it will either be a recliner seat with more pitch than US domestic F or same lieflat seat found on their longhaul aircraft. They used to be notorious for swapping aircraft around multiple times (maybe not quite as notorious as TG), but the frequency of aircraft swaps seems to have gone down in recent years as the share of aircraft with recliner seats has gone down.

While the lieflat seat on the 2-4 hour regional hop is nice to have, IME the recliner has been more than adequate.
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Old Mar 10, 21, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by rajhyd99 View Post
Can you also post the EQM/EQD/RDM information here. That will be helpful.
JAL is just evil for AA earnings with some of their fares, only 14% EQDs and 70% RDMs on an I Business Class fare such as this one...


Google Flights


Yes, these have change of airport and 13 hours on the outbound and 4:25 on the return... Who knows what entry requirements will look like in November...
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Old Mar 10, 21, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by rajhyd99 View Post
Can you also post the EQM/EQD/RDM information here. That will be helpful.
For CGK with JAL

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Old Mar 10, 21, 10:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jfkeze View Post
JAL is just evil for AA earnings with some of their fares, only 14% EQDs and 70% RDMs on an I Business Class fare such as this one...


Google Flights


Yes, these have change of airport and 13 hours on the outbound and 4:25 on the return... Who knows what entry requirements will look like in November...
JL will swtich I and X class accumulate rate from Nov 1. 2021. Let's wait and see AA's further adjustment.

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Old Mar 11, 21, 12:58 pm
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Here are the rules if you are looking at building a more creative routing:

Transfer Rules:
1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
1 PERMITTED IN CHINA IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 1 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
NONE PERMITTED IN SYD/AKL IN EACH DIRECTION
NONE PERMITTED IN CHINA IN EACH DIRECTION
IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION ON AA
ONLY IN BOS/CHI/CLT/DFW/LAX/MIA/NYC/PHL/PHX/SAN/
SFO/WAS/YVR IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT
PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
NONE PERMITTED IN SYD/AKL IN EACH DIRECTION
NONE PERMITTED IN CHINA IN EACH DIRECTION
IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT
PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
And the Routing Rules:
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Old Mar 11, 21, 6:52 pm
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This fare has been around for a good bit.

Ive gotten something stupid like JFK - LAX - MIA - LAX - NRT - HKG - CGK once when I was bored
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What about earning on AS?

I have found these bookable on AA or JL, both who are AS partners. Seems like it would be a bit difficult to get them to credit to AS MP based on the fact that you have mixed metal. I found a few where the first leg is AS from EWR-LAX. I didn't know if that would make it better or worse. I feel like it would be easier to wait until 3.31 when AS joins oneworld to see how the dust settles. Any thoughts?
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