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The NYC-RDU fare has been around for awhile and is very lucrative for BA flyers, you can have 3 segments each way which makes it a 240 TPs run or 40 % of oneworld sapphire (BA Silver)
Fare Rules
Spoiler
Fare rules & restrictions
American (AA) NUAJXSI3 EWR to RDU
General notes
FIRST CLASS SELL-UP OW NON-REF FARES I APPLIES FOR ONE WAY FARES FOR ADULT RESERVATION BOOKING DESIGNATOR EXCEPTIONS CHART 1 FARE LOCATIONS/FLIGHTS MKTG RBD NOTE IDENTIFIER CXR ------------- ----------------------- --- ---------- ------ ANY FARE EACH FLT SEGMENT. AA N I R/BA ANY FARE EACH FLT SEGMENT. AA I NRBD
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED/THU/SAT.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON BOEING 777-200/200ER AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SFO THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MIA AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON BOEING 777-300ER AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MIA AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF EACH TRIP. WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED. TICKETING FOR DEPARTURE OF EACH TRIP MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED. NO STOPOVER OCCURS IF PASSENGER TAKES NEXT AVAILABLE FLIGHT WITHIN 4 HOURS.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. NOTE - FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
Category 10: Combinability
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH AA US-CANADA TRANSBORDER/DOMESTIC FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE BREAK POINTS MUST BE STOPOVERS. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. ROUND TRIP EXCURSION FARES MAY NOT BE COMBINED END-ON-END WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE WHEN THESE FARES HAVE OVERLAPPING TRAVEL PERIODS AND ARE TO/FROM THE SAME CITIES OF ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AS A STOPOVER OR FARE BREAK POINT. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA/BB/KS/LF/4B/7H/9K/9X IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF CPR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA EXCEPT MEXICO VPCR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-CANADA VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE USA. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. ROUND TRIP EXCURSION FARES MAY NOT BE COMBINED END-ON-END WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE WHEN THESE FARES HAVE OVERLAPPING TRAVEL PERIODS AND ARE TO/FROM THE SAME CITIES OF ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AS A STOPOVER OR FARE BREAK POINT. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE BREAK POINTS MUST BE STOPOVERS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. A MAXIMUM OF ONE STOPOVER PERMITTED AT A FARE BREAK POINT. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. -TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS NOTE - THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITION APPLIES WHEN COMBINING HALF ROUND-TRIP FARES. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS INCLUDE MIN/MAX STAY RESERVATION AND TICKETING REQUIREMENTS STOPOVER PROVISIONS AND PENALTIES OR SERVICE CHARGE. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AACBR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA AA85R - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES CPR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA EXCEPT MEXICO VPCR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-CANADA VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE USA. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT- BWI-WAS FLL-MIA LAX-ONT LAX-SNA EWR-NYC OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC BUR-LAX HOU-IAH
Category 11: Blackout Dates
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED ON 14MAR 21 OR ON 21MAR 21 OR ON 05APR 21 OR ON 11APR 21 OR 23MAY 21 THROUGH 24MAY 21 OR 27MAY 21 THROUGH 28MAY 21 OR ON 29MAY 21 OR ON 31MAY 21 OR 03JUN 21 THROUGH 07JUN 21 OR 10JUN 21 THROUGH 14JUN 21 OR 17JUN 21 THROUGH 21JUN 21 OR 24JUN 21 THROUGH 28JUN 21 OR 01JUL 21 THROUGH 03JUL 21 OR ON 05JUL 21 OR 08JUL 21 THROUGH 12JUL 21 OR 15JUL 21 THROUGH 19JUL 21 OR 22JUL 21 THROUGH 26JUL 21 OR 29JUL 21 THROUGH 02AUG 21 OR 05AUG 21 THROUGH 09AUG 21 OR 12AUG 21 THROUGH 15AUG 21 OR 02SEP 21 THROUGH 03SEP 21 OR ON 06SEP 21 FOR DEPARTURE OF EACH TRIP.
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT 0-1 WITHOUT A SEAT. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT 0-1. OR - MISSIONARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT 0-1. OR - SEAMAN INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT 0-1. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT 0-1. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER FARE COMPONENT.
Category 14: Travel restrictions
TRAVEL ON THIS FARE COMPONENT ON EACH TRIP MUST COMMENCE BY MIDNIGHT ON 11FEB 21.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31DEC 20.
The NYC-RDU fare has been around for awhile and is very lucrative for BA flyers, you can have 3 segments each way which makes it a 240 TPs run or 40 % of oneworld sapphire (BA Silver)
Fare Rules
Spoiler
Fare rules & restrictions
American (AA) NUAJXSI3 EWR to RDU
General notes
FIRST CLASS SELL-UP OW NON-REF FARES I APPLIES FOR ONE WAY FARES FOR ADULT RESERVATION BOOKING DESIGNATOR EXCEPTIONS CHART 1 FARE LOCATIONS/FLIGHTS MKTG RBD NOTE IDENTIFIER CXR ------------- ----------------------- --- ---------- ------ ANY FARE EACH FLT SEGMENT. AA N I R/BA ANY FARE EACH FLT SEGMENT. AA I NRBD
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED/THU/SAT.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON BOEING 777-200/200ER AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JFK AIRPORT AND SFO THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN BOS AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MIA AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON BOEING 777-300ER AIRCRAFT. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MIA AND LAX THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF EACH TRIP. WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED. TICKETING FOR DEPARTURE OF EACH TRIP MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED. NO STOPOVER OCCURS IF PASSENGER TAKES NEXT AVAILABLE FLIGHT WITHIN 4 HOURS.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. NOTE - FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED.
Category 10: Combinability
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/MULTI-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH AA US-CANADA TRANSBORDER/DOMESTIC FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE BREAK POINTS MUST BE STOPOVERS. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. ROUND TRIP EXCURSION FARES MAY NOT BE COMBINED END-ON-END WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE WHEN THESE FARES HAVE OVERLAPPING TRAVEL PERIODS AND ARE TO/FROM THE SAME CITIES OF ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AS A STOPOVER OR FARE BREAK POINT. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA/BB/KS/LF/4B/7H/9K/9X IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF CPR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA EXCEPT MEXICO VPCR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-CANADA VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE USA. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. ROUND TRIP EXCURSION FARES MAY NOT BE COMBINED END-ON-END WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE WHEN THESE FARES HAVE OVERLAPPING TRAVEL PERIODS AND ARE TO/FROM THE SAME CITIES OF ORIGIN AND DESTINATION AS A STOPOVER OR FARE BREAK POINT. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. ADJACENT LINE OF FLIGHT FARE BREAK POINTS MUST BE STOPOVERS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF. OPEN JAWS/2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF 2 FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. A MAXIMUM OF ONE STOPOVER PERMITTED AT A FARE BREAK POINT. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. -TO FORM 2-COMPONENT CIRCLE TRIPS OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS NOTE - THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITION APPLIES WHEN COMBINING HALF ROUND-TRIP FARES. THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS INCLUDE MIN/MAX STAY RESERVATION AND TICKETING REQUIREMENTS STOPOVER PROVISIONS AND PENALTIES OR SERVICE CHARGE. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF AACBR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA AA85R - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES CPR - BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES-CANADA DFR - WITHIN THE UNITED STATES FBRNAPV - WITHIN NORTH AMERICA EXCEPT MEXICO VPCR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-CANADA VPDR - BETWEEN PUERTO RICO/VIRGIN ISLANDS-THE USA. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT- BWI-WAS FLL-MIA LAX-ONT LAX-SNA EWR-NYC OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC BUR-LAX HOU-IAH
Category 11: Blackout Dates
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED ON 14MAR 21 OR ON 21MAR 21 OR ON 05APR 21 OR ON 11APR 21 OR 23MAY 21 THROUGH 24MAY 21 OR 27MAY 21 THROUGH 28MAY 21 OR ON 29MAY 21 OR ON 31MAY 21 OR 03JUN 21 THROUGH 07JUN 21 OR 10JUN 21 THROUGH 14JUN 21 OR 17JUN 21 THROUGH 21JUN 21 OR 24JUN 21 THROUGH 28JUN 21 OR 01JUL 21 THROUGH 03JUL 21 OR ON 05JUL 21 OR 08JUL 21 THROUGH 12JUL 21 OR 15JUL 21 THROUGH 19JUL 21 OR 22JUL 21 THROUGH 26JUL 21 OR 29JUL 21 THROUGH 02AUG 21 OR 05AUG 21 THROUGH 09AUG 21 OR 12AUG 21 THROUGH 15AUG 21 OR 02SEP 21 THROUGH 03SEP 21 OR ON 06SEP 21 FOR DEPARTURE OF EACH TRIP.
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT 0-1 WITHOUT A SEAT. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT 0-1. OR - MISSIONARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT 0-1. OR - SEAMAN INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT 0-1. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT 0-1. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL PER FARE COMPONENT.
Category 14: Travel restrictions
TRAVEL ON THIS FARE COMPONENT ON EACH TRIP MUST COMMENCE BY MIDNIGHT ON 11FEB 21.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31DEC 20.
Under the current reduced thresholds it would be over 50%. 450TPs needed for Silver.
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Originally Posted by madfish
Under the current reduced thresholds it would be over 50%. 450TPs needed for Silver.
I wasn't sure if the lower TPs were just for renewals or scratch but seems that they are only for renewal (that's what I've heard from BA agents on twitter) although if one is Bronze and wants to go for Gold not sure...
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Originally Posted by jfkeze
I wasn't sure if the lower TPs were just for renewals or scratch but seems that they are only for renewal (that's what I've heard from BA agents on twitter) although if one is Bronze and wants to go for Gold not sure...
I'm gonna answer myself here, if you already had a BA account even with no status, the lower numbers apply... so BA Silver for 500 USD plus the 2 BA segments ain't a bad deal...
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Originally Posted by jfkeze
I'm gonna answer myself here, if you already had a BA account even with no status, the lower numbers apply... so BA Silver for 500 USD plus the 2 BA segments ain't a bad deal...
How is an American supposed to get BA segments nowadays
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Originally Posted by TravelingZoomer
How is an American supposed to get BA segments nowadays
Qualification year ends in mid 2021, so hopefully with a quick hop across the pond to London... The Carribean BA Fifth freedoms I think are not operating (and it might be harder to enter the caribbean than the UK)
But it's all speculation at this point...
The max mileage on this route could be obtained when flying NYC-DFW-MIA-RDU, however, for those seeking a same-day turnaround, it's not possible to do a same-day turnaround with this routing in both directions.
Nice routing finds you can even add the 777 between DFW-MIA, seeing very limited dates at $118 in March and then higher during the rest of the year...
Indeed, I am also not sure if this case applies for travel after mid-January but during my upcoming DCA-RDU TP run next week, I had the chance to book my place on the 787-8on the DFW-MIA leg.
Although, on this route, the 787-8's that operate have the older configuration ( with some seats being reverse-facing )
In addition, I would make a general reminder that bookings should be made at least 21 days in advance.