Do some research first, because my security man friend who worked for one of the oil companies recounted a couple of incidents of westerners taking off into the desert to visit some old sites and getting cornered, rounded up and summarily shot. In one of the incidents, they, whoever they were, shot all the women and one man (maybe he remonstrated with them), and left the three remaining men alive. I don't believe the perpetrators were caught, or even actively sought.
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Originally Posted by Concerto
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Do some research first, because my security man friend who worked for one of the oil companies recounted a couple of incidents of westerners taking off into the desert to visit some old sites and getting cornered, rounded up and summarily shot. In one of the incidents, they, whoever they were, shot all the women and one man (maybe he remonstrated with them), and left the three remaining men alive. I don't believe the perpetrators were caught, or even actively sought.
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Originally Posted by Gobber
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This is not serious argument, you can research just about any country in Europe, US and/or rest of the world, where tourist robbery/murders took place. The are countries where extra security is needed, i.e. Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Iraq. Saudia is not one of them. It is as safe as India, Russia or Brazil.
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I am glad to hear it, I would love to go there and see amazing things. I would gladly join christravelblog on his trip, but I doubt that the dates would work at this stage. I still think it is better to go with somebody rather than alone. Despite the statistics mentioned above, this country has been closed off to most visitors for a long time now and I don't think the average population likes us. We are infidels to them.
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Originally Posted by Gobber
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This is not serious argument, you can research just about any country in Europe, US and/or rest of the world, where tourist robbery/murders took place. The are countries where extra security is needed, i.e. Sudan, Somalia, Syria, Iraq. Saudia is not one of them. It is as safe as India, Russia or Brazil.
Dangerous countries - Tourist Map As for being "as safe as Brazil", that would worry me quite a bit! |
Take the country discussion elsewhere, this is a fare thread. Period.
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Yes fair enough, but it is appropriate to have side comments about some of the destinations visited while using these fares. This is a bit exceptional because the KSA has been so off limits for so long. So it's a good place to air a few worries. As for the fare, I sure hope the possibility to book it continues for the moment and they don't pull it.
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Originally Posted by Flying Yazata
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Take the country discussion elsewhere, this is a fare thread. Period.
Originally Posted by Concerto
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Do some research first, because my security man friend who worked for one of the oil companies recounted a couple of incidents of westerners taking off into the desert to visit some old sites and getting cornered, rounded up and summarily shot. In one of the incidents, they, whoever they were, shot all the women and one man (maybe he remonstrated with them), and left the three remaining men alive. I don't believe the perpetrators were caught, or even actively sought.
It seems to me important to have some factual clarity, before spreading what could originally have been bluster, gasconade. Looking at government travel advice regarding crime in KSA:
However, most of the advisories seem only inches away from advising against travel, though this is generally related to terrorism and the regional conflicts. |
I've been working in KSA for much of the last months. As a country its not so different from other Middle East countries. If you follow common sense and read up on the country, you will be fine. Learn the reply to the common Arabic greeting, dress appropriately, don't discuss politics/religion/ethics. Same as in any other country.
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Originally Posted by AurelAF96
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So how you board your flight to KUL from the new terminal if arriving from ATH in the new terminal?
When disembarking at T1, at the end of the airbridge there are signages (and staff) : exit / domestic transfers are on one side and international transfers are on the other. There are 2 arrival corridors, one for each side of the gates (they are separated by a people mover not in service yet) and from what I could see the other side is not really ready (travellators yet to be fitted). So I guess T1 can't run at more than 50% of its capacity for the next weeks (several gates are not in use either). Anyway you'll end into a not busy security check. A further escalator and you're landing at departures level of T1. The lounge entrance is just there on the left but I was denied access and told to use the one in South terminal after the bus transfer. And that's where things are turning interesting : nobody really knows were the shuttle bus leaves from (at some point I was told my connecting flight didn't exist). Go gate 26 the lounge dragon said... See gate 30 another guy told... 15 min after a couple of frantic phone calls (to a dispatcher) a bus appeared. 15 more minutes and you're left at a gate of south terminal (gate 10 or so, anyway there were pax making the opposite journey). From disembarking until reaching the other terminal around 1 hour elapsed. But you really need to have an onward boarding pass with you (didn't see any connection desk or anyone to help for that) It seemed to me there was a separate domestic - domestic airside shuttle but I can't really say. Both terminals are in sharp contrast one with each other : T1 is huge and empty with wifi working fine, South Terminal is... Well, consistent with its reputation. |
Originally Posted by Boturham
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I've been working in KSA for much of the last months. As a country its not so different from other Middle East countries. If you follow common sense and read up on the country, you will be fine. Learn the reply to the common Arabic greeting, dress appropriately, don't discuss politics/religion/ethics. Same as in any other country.
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So take the right corridor at the end of jet bridge and then goto 30 and ask the person at the gate to call the bus if it looks dead? What was the lounge experience at south terminal?
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Reply to all about security: I'll be allright don't worry. Have travelled ALL middle east countries (except Syria and Yemen). Syria also on my list for this year latest in 2021.
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Originally Posted by IstKong
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KSA is way safer than Brazil a actually...
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