Oct 2, 2019, 7:22 am
Last edit by: Tokyoite
fare XLX08DN0
Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 01NOV 19 THROUGH 12DEC 19 OR 28DEC 19 THROUGH
28JAN 20 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 12 HOURS AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND.
Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Stopover restrictions
1 STOPOVER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 AT USD 100.00 EACH.
Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
FREE IN YVR/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO/PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
FREE IN JAPAN IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31OCT 19.
Penalties
CANCELLATIONS: ANY TIME
CHARGE USD 500.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CHANGES:
BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 400.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 400.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 01NOV 19 THROUGH 12DEC 19 OR 28DEC 19 THROUGH
28JAN 20 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 12 HOURS AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND.
Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Stopover restrictions
1 STOPOVER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 AT USD 100.00 EACH.
Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
FREE IN YVR/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO/PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
FREE IN JAPAN IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31OCT 19.
Penalties
CANCELLATIONS: ANY TIME
CHARGE USD 500.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CHANGES:
BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 400.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 400.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
(JL) Business JFK-TPE return for $2300
Jan 29, 2020, 2:33 am
#121
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,363
Thanks everyone for this. Completing my mileage run today, for me JALs longhaul business class far outstrips United Polaris in terms of hard product and service. Chair is far more comfortable for me than Polaris and the food for me is light years better. As a former United 1k am so happy i moved to AA.
I asked this in the AA forum but no one has answered it yet, for those of you that credited to American, how long did it take to get your mileage etc credited to your account?
I asked this in the AA forum but no one has answered it yet, for those of you that credited to American, how long did it take to get your mileage etc credited to your account?
Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 am
#122
Join Date: May 2006
Programs: Aeromexico Platinum and AA Exec Platinum
Posts: 212
We did this trip in December and I remember the miles posting about 72 hours later on AA. We did stay on KL for a few days say it may actually be that JL sends miles to AA on specific days of the week. Anyway, within a few days the miles will be there.
Jan 29, 2020, 4:36 am
#123
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: GNV
Programs: AA EP (life Gold), Global Entry, TSA Pre-Check, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 392
Jan 29, 2020, 9:28 pm
#124
Join Date: Nov 2018
Programs: OW-E; AA-EP
Posts: 24
Thanks everyone for this. Completing my mileage run today, for me JALs longhaul business class far outstrips United Polaris in terms of hard product and service. Chair is far more comfortable for me than Polaris and the food for me is light years better. As a former United 1k am so happy i moved to AA.
I asked this in the AA forum but no one has answered it yet, for those of you that credited to American, how long did it take to get your mileage etc credited to your account?
I asked this in the AA forum but no one has answered it yet, for those of you that credited to American, how long did it take to get your mileage etc credited to your account?
Jan 30, 2020, 1:17 am
#126
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
I think the only thing wrong is the seasonality. Here's the current one:
PERMITTED 27DEC19 THROUGH 01JAN20 OR 08JAN20 THROUGH
29JAN20 OR 24FEB20 THROUGH 08MAR20 OR 23MAR20 THROUGH
05APR20 OR 13APR20 THROUGH 30APR20 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.
Also, for anyone trying to do "creative" routings, the only restriction is 9328 MPM. This gives you about 1250 additional miles over the "obvious" JFK-HND/NRT-TPE/TSA routing. The flight application section of the rules is:
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY RJ
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY MU
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LP
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY MA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2A
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9W
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY MX.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR
AND EWR/LGA.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR
AND SAN/LAS.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR
AND DEN.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR AND
CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY AC FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY QX
ANY JL FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MEXICO
AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY AM FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY QX
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN CONTIGUOUS
U.S.A./ALASKA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY QX
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR AND
PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN
CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO AND PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN
ISLANDS
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN PUERTO
RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSPACIFIC
SECTORS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN JAPAN
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY NU FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND
SOUTHEAST ASIA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND
KOREA REP OF SOUTH
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
PERMITTED 27DEC19 THROUGH 01JAN20 OR 08JAN20 THROUGH
29JAN20 OR 24FEB20 THROUGH 08MAR20 OR 23MAR20 THROUGH
05APR20 OR 13APR20 THROUGH 30APR20 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.
Also, for anyone trying to do "creative" routings, the only restriction is 9328 MPM. This gives you about 1250 additional miles over the "obvious" JFK-HND/NRT-TPE/TSA routing. The flight application section of the rules is:
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9K
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY RJ
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY MU
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LP
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY MA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2A
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9W
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY MX.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR
AND EWR/LGA.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR
AND SAN/LAS.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR
AND DEN.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR AND
CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY AC FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY QX
ANY JL FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN MEXICO
AND CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY AM FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY QX
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN CONTIGUOUS
U.S.A./ALASKA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY QX
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN YVR AND
PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN
CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO AND PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN
ISLANDS
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN PUERTO
RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSPACIFIC
SECTORS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN JAPAN
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT
ANY NU FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND
SOUTHEAST ASIA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND
KOREA REP OF SOUTH
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
Last edited by VegasGambler; Jan 30, 2020 at 1:26 am
Jan 31, 2020, 10:40 am
#128
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,875
I think the only thing wrong is the seasonality. Here's the current one:
PERMITTED 27DEC19 THROUGH 01JAN20 OR 08JAN20 THROUGH
29JAN20 OR 24FEB20 THROUGH 08MAR20 OR 23MAR20 THROUGH
05APR20 OR 13APR20 THROUGH 30APR20 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.
PERMITTED 27DEC19 THROUGH 01JAN20 OR 08JAN20 THROUGH
29JAN20 OR 24FEB20 THROUGH 08MAR20 OR 23MAR20 THROUGH
05APR20 OR 13APR20 THROUGH 30APR20 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
ORIGIN.
Jan 31, 2020, 12:48 pm
#129
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31JAN20.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF JL OR AA.
I wonder if they will re-file the fare after tomorrow.
They also have a fare that's $200 more that's set to take effect on 2/10. That is actually more in line with the price in the title of this thread (the current one is $2076 all-in)
Jan 31, 2020, 2:53 pm
#131
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: ORD
Programs: AA EXP AY+ Plat UA Silver Marriott Titanium
Posts: 34
Does anyone have a view on the Coronavirus for a trip to TPE in 3 weeks? The CDC is now saying no non essential travel to China. The map on the CDC website seems to indicate that Taiwan is included in that restricted area but they do not explicitly mention any regions outside of China.
Jan 31, 2020, 3:43 pm
#132
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
Does anyone have a view on the Coronavirus for a trip to TPE in 3 weeks? The CDC is now saying no non essential travel to China. The map on the CDC website seems to indicate that Taiwan is included in that restricted area but they do not explicitly mention any regions outside of China.
Until there are 100s of thousands of deaths (and we are orders of magnitude away from that), this is less dangerous than the "regular" flu. The concern is more that it might explode into something bigger. Everything starts small; it's difficult to predict where it will go. Everyone was panicked about SARS and it died out before killing even a tiny fraction of the number of people as the regular flu (SARS killed 774 people if you believe official numbers; according to wikipedia the regular flu kills 290k-650k every year).
Last edited by VegasGambler; Jan 31, 2020 at 3:52 pm
Jan 31, 2020, 3:50 pm
#133
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: LAX/TPE
Programs: United 1K, JAL Sapphire, SPG Lifetime Platinum, National Executive Elite, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 42,171
Does anyone have a view on the Coronavirus for a trip to TPE in 3 weeks? The CDC is now saying no non essential travel to China. The map on the CDC website seems to indicate that Taiwan is included in that restricted area but they do not explicitly mention any regions outside of China.
Taiwan only has a handful of current cases in a country of over 30MM people and no public health risk.
I’m on my way to Taipei next week with absolutely no concern.
Jan 31, 2020, 4:00 pm
#134
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: AA EXP; Hyatt Globalist; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Gold
Posts: 723
I would agree with this.
Additionally, Taiwan has already largely shut down travel from the mainland to Taiwan and seems to be doing a good job of quarantining the most high risk people.
Additionally, Taiwan has already largely shut down travel from the mainland to Taiwan and seems to be doing a good job of quarantining the most high risk people.
Feb 2, 2020, 6:19 am
#135
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 223
JL codeshare on Alaska, crediting to AA
Per this thread I think the AS SEA-EWR leg with a JL flight number should earn according to published JL accrual rates.
I think the key language is the following from AA's JL partner page: "earn AAdvantage® miles when you fly on Japan Airlines marketed and operated flights as well as Japan Airlines codeshare flights operated by other carriers including oneworld® carriers and affiliates". For other partner airlines, the "other carriers including" language is not present. This leads me to believe that JL is an exception to the rule that the operating carrier must be oneworld. So I'm expecting (hoping) to earn 25% of distance on this AS flight = $600 EQD. The flight is in just over two weeks so I'll find out soon enough...
I think the key language is the following from AA's JL partner page: "earn AAdvantage® miles when you fly on Japan Airlines marketed and operated flights as well as Japan Airlines codeshare flights operated by other carriers including oneworld® carriers and affiliates". For other partner airlines, the "other carriers including" language is not present. This leads me to believe that JL is an exception to the rule that the operating carrier must be oneworld. So I'm expecting (hoping) to earn 25% of distance on this AS flight = $600 EQD. The flight is in just over two weeks so I'll find out soon enough...
Total earnings (as EXP):
- 4157 EQD
- 33244 EQM
- 40728 RDM
