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fare XLX08DN0
Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 01NOV 19 THROUGH 12DEC 19 OR 28DEC 19 THROUGH
28JAN 20 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 12 HOURS AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND.

Maximum stay requirements

TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

Stopover restrictions

1 STOPOVER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN AREA 3 AT USD 100.00 EACH.

Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
FREE IN YVR/CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./MEXICO/PUERTO RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
FREE IN JAPAN IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31OCT 19.

Penalties

CANCELLATIONS: ANY TIME
CHARGE USD 500.00 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
CHANGES:
BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 400.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE USD 400.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.

(JL) Business JFK-TPE return for $2300

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Oct 22, 2019, 1:48 pm

#46

oztiks

Join Date: Feb 2017

Posts: 12

Has anyone been able to book this fare recently? I see tons of availability on Matrix, but cannot find a single place that can price the flight? Thanks.

Oct 22, 2019, 5:32 pm

#47

Whodunit68

Join Date: Dec 2015

Location: GNV

Programs: AA EP (life Gold), Global Entry, TSA Pre-Check, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat

Posts: 392

Quote:

Originally Posted by oztiks

Has anyone been able to book this fare recently? I see tons of availability on Matrix, but cannot find a single place that can price the flight? Thanks.

I got to pay screen via google flights. 3 options (aa.com, jal.com, or call jal). I only tried with the first 2.
alternatively, a TA can book these (confirmed). I like to throw a bone to the TA I use as he works hard for me and does a bunch of gratis stuff. It's just the same to me.

Oct 22, 2019, 5:56 pm

#48

betonic

Join Date: May 2006

Programs: Aeromexico Platinum and AA Exec Platinum

Posts: 212

I was able to book a few weeks ago JFK KUL on the Japan Air website but there were very few available dates in early December when we’re going.

Oct 24, 2019, 10:34 pm

#49

shah1md

Join Date: Jul 2005

Location: DFW

Programs: AA PLT

Posts: 184

Alaska or American

I'm trying to figure out if I should credit to Alaska (MVP Gold 75k) or American (EXP)...am I doing the math right below to help make the decision?

Ticketed: Japan Airlines
Ticket Class: X
Air miles: 20,120 (Round Trip) JFK-Tokyo-KUL-Tokyo-JFK

Alaska:
RDM (100% Base Miles +25% Class of Service +100% (Additional Bonus)) = 45,270 + 56,587 (MVP Gold 75) = 101,857
EQM (100% + 25% Class of Service Bonus): 25,150
*Not sure about EQM

or

American Airlines:
RDM (100% Base + 25% Class of Service) = 25,150 + 24,144 (AA EXP) = 49,294
EQM (2.00): 40,240
EQD (25%): 5,030

Oct 24, 2019, 10:57 pm

#50

nickohrn

Join Date: Mar 2018

Posts: 310

Quote:

Originally Posted by shah1md

For Alaska, you definitely don't get 125% of the total. You get 125% of the base miles as MVPG75.

20,120 * ( 1.0 (base miles) + 0.25 (class of service) + 1.0 (additional bonus) + (1.0 * 1.25 (base miles * elite mileage multiplier))) = 20,120 * 3.5 = 70,420 RDM.

Still a good haul, but not as good as your initial calculation.

Edit: This is to the best of my understanding going back to check previous AS credited flights. I'm not exactly an expert compared to most on here.

Last edited by nickohrn; Oct 24, 2019 at 11:10 pm Reason: Added a caveat

Oct 26, 2019, 7:06 am

#51

Flying for Fun

Join Date: Mar 2017

Location: British Columbia

Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold

Posts: 7,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by shah1md

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Oct 26, 2019, 10:09 am

#52

nickohrn

Join Date: Mar 2018

Posts: 310

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying for Fun

Is this a publicly available spreadsheet or one you keep for personal use? I've got an AS status spreadsheet that was shared on here at one point, but yours looks much nicer.

Oct 26, 2019, 8:49 pm

#53

Flying for Fun

Join Date: Mar 2017

Location: British Columbia

Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold

Posts: 7,263

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickohrn

Is this a publicly available spreadsheet or one you keep for personal use? I've got an AS status spreadsheet that was shared on here at one point, but yours looks much nicer.

It is one that I created for myself, particularly useful for multi-airline, multi-cabin, itineraies.

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Oct 29, 2019, 7:48 pm

#54

shah1md

Join Date: Jul 2005

Location: DFW

Programs: AA PLT

Posts: 184

Thanks FlyingForFun - you must be a financial wizard in the real world.

Oct 30, 2019, 9:01 am

#55

Whodunit68

Join Date: Dec 2015

Location: GNV

Programs: AA EP (life Gold), Global Entry, TSA Pre-Check, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat

Posts: 392

yours looks much nicer (and tracks more stuff) Triple-F.
You have some good content there!

my google sheet calculator/tracker
including this trip.

Dec 4, 2019, 11:42 pm

#56

qupasyd

Join Date: Apr 2016

Posts: 306

This fare from JFK to TPE/TSA has returned at a lower price, ticketable on either JL or AA. You can get it below $2,000 with an Expedia package. (I'm not sure about Amex IAP.)

Example
JFK-HND-TSA -- $2,069

Dec 5, 2019, 12:00 am

#57

Glenn Lee

Join Date: Mar 2018

Posts: 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by qupasyd

$1832 on IAP

Dec 5, 2019, 12:05 am

#58

dave9lax

Join Date: Nov 2019

Posts: 82

Thank you. Do you know if better to book on JL or AA, or doesn’t matter? (If crediting to Alaska)

also how do you book Expedia package or get further discount?

This fare from JFK to TPE/TSA has returned at a lower price, ticketable on either JL or AA. You can get it below $2,000 with an Expedia package. (I'm not sure about Amex IAP.)

Dec 5, 2019, 12:15 am

#59

Kacee

A FlyerTalk Posting Legend

Join Date: Apr 2013

Location: PHX

Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)

Posts: 56,448

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave9lax

Thank you. Do you know if better to book on JL or AA, or doesn’t matter? (If crediting to Alaska)

It does not earn if ticketed by AA after February 20. It earns better in AS if ticketed by JL regardless.

Dec 5, 2019, 6:49 am

#60

zip10001

Join Date: Dec 2016

Location: Long Island, NY

Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Gold

Posts: 732

Just booked with Amex international program for a bit of $1800! Thanks to OP and to everyone else.

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