[PREM FARE GONE] ST: AZ NBO-LAX OW 977 euro - fully flexible J class
#91
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PWM/CDG
Programs: AF/KL Plat, AA Plat, HH Diamond
Posts: 788
I currently have this booked directly thru Delta.com. Is there any downside to canceling that ticket and purchasing it again via Amex travel portal for 5x points? I know general consensus is best to book directly with the airline but I think it's ok (or preferable) if I have Amex backing me up? Still pinching myself on this fare
#92
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PWM/CDG
Programs: AF/KL Plat, AA Plat, HH Diamond
Posts: 788
Has anyone been able to actually reserve a seat on NBO-FCO or FCO-NBO on the KQ flight with a AZ flight number? I haven't and even called KQ (operating carrier) and was told to get seat at online checkin since I booked it as a codeshare. Its funny though, my inbound ticket (note: not on this fare, don't start looking for this!) is AF coded KQ flight and on airfrance.com I could get a seat assignment. I'm guessing that's because both AF and KQ both use Amadeus?
#93
Join Date: Jan 2018
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#94
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 443
We need more information to help you. What is your starting and ending cities and what cities do you want (or require) stopovers? Who does she collect miles with? What dates are you looking at? I can try to help out if you include that info.
Also, you mention you want to "take your mother TO Kenya". This fare is only valid for travel originating in Kenya. I have the same issue. I am originating in Buffalo (live in Toronto) so I bought 2 tickets. Outbound on Air France BUF-DTW-CDG-NBO for USD $2200. Then this deal NBO-FCO-LAX-JFK (+BUF separate ticket) for USD $1078. Its about the same price as just buying a YYZ-NBO-YYZ ticket round-trip, but that route doesn't include the full fare J class return so way less Delta Skymiles. The fare is most helpful for those exiting Kenya.
Also, you mention you want to "take your mother TO Kenya". This fare is only valid for travel originating in Kenya. I have the same issue. I am originating in Buffalo (live in Toronto) so I bought 2 tickets. Outbound on Air France BUF-DTW-CDG-NBO for USD $2200. Then this deal NBO-FCO-LAX-JFK (+BUF separate ticket) for USD $1078. Its about the same price as just buying a YYZ-NBO-YYZ ticket round-trip, but that route doesn't include the full fare J class return so way less Delta Skymiles. The fare is most helpful for those exiting Kenya.
#97
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 204
enter "f bci=j" into the second line on advanced controls, e.g.
This will get you here:
And here is the example Priceline link:
https://www.priceline.com/m/fly/sear...0&num-youths=0
This will get you here:
And here is the example Priceline link:
https://www.priceline.com/m/fly/sear...0&num-youths=0
#99
Join Date: Feb 2016
Programs: DL DM, SPG Plat 100/LT Gold, Marriott Plat, National Executive Elite
Posts: 2,988
Depends on what marketing carriers the flights were booked as, but generally C earns 150% MQMs while J earns 200%.
#100
Join Date: Jan 2018
Programs: AF/KL Gold, DL Diamond, Hertz PC, Bonvoy Gold Elite; Hilton Gold
Posts: 988
Who did you book with? The COWKE fare is still fully refundable and changeable. The $100 penalty is only if you cancel AFTER ticketed departure. And yes, there is a huge difference in earnings in J vs C class. You need to get it issued to J.
#101
Join Date: Jan 2018
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To book: Click on the price to show the final page on ITA Matrix. Select all (ctrl-A) and copy (ctrl-C) then goto BookwithMatrix.com and paste it where directed (ctrl-V) and it will give you links to Priceline for booking. Booking on Delta.com is also possible. If you would rather book on Delta.com send me a screen shot of your ITA Matrix results via pm and I will send you the link you can book Delta.
ITA search parameters
November results via SFO
#102
Join Date: Jan 2018
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Just a shortcut for you in case you were unaware. In routing codes box, you can just but pure connection: FCO MIA JFK and then in Extension codes (2nd box) but alliance skyteam. Saves on the embedded airline code like you have shown. Also in extension code you can enter multiple codes with a semicolon f bc=j;alliance skyteam
Anyhoo...you probably knew, I just thought I'd point it out if not!
Anyhoo...you probably knew, I just thought I'd point it out if not!
#103
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: AVL
Programs: DL DM MM; Hilton Diamond; Hertz 5*
Posts: 706
Hi Utskicat this is really helpful - thanks. I found an itinerary and called the Delta Diamond desk but they said they cannot ticket or price unless it's Delta metal over the Atlantic. I found another itinerary where the Alitalia flight is a codeshare on Delta metal and called back - and this time they said Delta cannot ticket because the Kenya codeshare flight isn't available to them.
I can get it to price on BookWithMatrix and Priceline will book it. But I was hoping to book with Delta so that if Alitalia were to go under I would have better options. BookWithMatrix gives me a link to book with Delta but the link just takes me to a blank Delta booking screen.
It looks like you might know a workaround - if I DM you the itinerary would you have a minute to help me out?
Thanks
I can get it to price on BookWithMatrix and Priceline will book it. But I was hoping to book with Delta so that if Alitalia were to go under I would have better options. BookWithMatrix gives me a link to book with Delta but the link just takes me to a blank Delta booking screen.
It looks like you might know a workaround - if I DM you the itinerary would you have a minute to help me out?
Thanks
#104
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PWM/CDG
Programs: AF/KL Plat, AA Plat, HH Diamond
Posts: 788
Just to add : you can actually build a stopover in SFO, since the fare allows for unlimited stopovers with no HIP checks. Try Ita Powertools (there is a thread on here about it) to book with DL.
#105
formerly DNPierson1
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K
Posts: 135
thanks - I think I'll just keep the tix I have booked through Delta for peace of mind.