[PREM FARE GONE] SQ JFK-FRA(Eco)-FRA-SIN-JFK (Bus) from $2008
Mar 21, 2019, 8:45 am
#106
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, UA 1k.
Posts: 296
Is it better to have a RT JFk-SIN-FRA-SIN-JFK rather than two OWs to/from FRA in D, if one is to make subsequent changes?
I haven’t seen complete fare rules, but typically any changes after departure only incur the change fee, and no reprice. So if one wants to make changes to the “second” trip FRA-SIN-JFK, this may be beneficial, assuming they don’t rebook you on FRA-JFK direct.
I haven’t seen complete fare rules, but typically any changes after departure only incur the change fee, and no reprice. So if one wants to make changes to the “second” trip FRA-SIN-JFK, this may be beneficial, assuming they don’t rebook you on FRA-JFK direct.
Mar 21, 2019, 8:58 am
#107
Join Date: May 2017
Location: SEA
Posts: 355
The one thing I'm worried about is that if I am able to upgrade it that I might not be able to credit the flights to Alaska. I would much rather spend 50 hours in their nice F suite instead of J, but even in J it'll still be nice.
Haven't let the wife know that I bought these flights yet, just waiting to figure out what cabin we'll be in
Mar 21, 2019, 11:49 am
#108
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
Programs: UA PP (2MM), BA gold
Posts: 2,195
Maybe someone with SQ knowledge can advise procedure for online upgrade of individual flights instead of a ticket. Obviously (Rule#1), cannot call in to SQ for help.
I was going to try to buy "U" instead of "D" and upgrade (and if not cancel within 24 hours) but no "O" was available on my flights.
I also plan to credit to AS and if you upgrade using Kris miles I would imagine have to do so with KF#. I was going to try and risk it and then before I flew try to delete KF#.
As to not telling the boss- better be careful as you might end up with two seats for yourself.... or you will be in the "kennel class."
I was going to try to buy "U" instead of "D" and upgrade (and if not cancel within 24 hours) but no "O" was available on my flights.
I also plan to credit to AS and if you upgrade using Kris miles I would imagine have to do so with KF#. I was going to try and risk it and then before I flew try to delete KF#.
As to not telling the boss- better be careful as you might end up with two seats for yourself.... or you will be in the "kennel class."
Mar 21, 2019, 11:55 am
#109
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
Programs: UA PP (2MM), BA gold
Posts: 2,195
Is it better to have a RT JFk-SIN-FRA-SIN-JFK rather than two OWs to/from FRA in D, if one is to make subsequent changes?
I haven’t seen complete fare rules, but typically any changes after departure only incur the change fee, and no reprice. So if one wants to make changes to the “second” trip FRA-SIN-JFK, this may be beneficial, assuming they don’t rebook you on FRA-JFK direct.
I haven’t seen complete fare rules, but typically any changes after departure only incur the change fee, and no reprice. So if one wants to make changes to the “second” trip FRA-SIN-JFK, this may be beneficial, assuming they don’t rebook you on FRA-JFK direct.
Mar 21, 2019, 3:50 pm
#110
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, UA 1k.
Posts: 296
Thank you!
These SQ rules don't seem to follow the standard fare rule format, or at least not the one I am used to. There does not seem to be any stipulation about changes and reissue, but SQ was showing $250 fee for rebooking on their site for D-fare.
Edit: I found the fare rules in my Orbitz booking. Here is what it says in the penalties section:
I do not quite see what happens with repricing after departure and whether it will be based on historical fares or something else. Any clues?
These SQ rules don't seem to follow the standard fare rule format, or at least not the one I am used to. There does not seem to be any stipulation about changes and reissue, but SQ was showing $250 fee for rebooking on their site for D-fare.
Edit: I found the fare rules in my Orbitz booking. Here is what it says in the penalties section:
(16)PE.PENALTIES
FROM/TO AREA 1 FOR D15USRLC TYPE FARES CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL. NOTE - -------------------------------------------------- FOR ALL JOURNEYS BEFORE/AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NOT ALLOWED -------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. -------------------------------------------------- IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. -------------------------------------------------- YQ WILL NOT BE REFUNDED FOR NON-REFUNDABLE FARES. EXCEPT FOR TICKETS ISSUED IN TAIWAN/INDIA/SOUTH AFRICA AND BRAZIL. -------------------------------------------------- IN CASES OF NO-SHOW TICKET IS CONSIDERED AS UTILISED AND CANNOT BE REFUNDED OR REBOOKED UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED. -------------------------------------------------- FOR ANY CANCELLATIONS THE STRICTER FARE CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY. -------------------------------------------------- CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE USD 250.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - -------------------------------------------------- FOR JOURNEYS TO/FROM AMERICAS / EUROPE / AFRICA SOUTHWEST PACIFIC EXCEPT FOR JOURNEYS BETWEEN RUSSIA AND SWEDEN OR BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND BEFORE/AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD250 -------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CHARGE HAS TO BE CONVERTED INTO LOCAL CURRENCY AT THE BANKERS SELLING RATE. -------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. -------------------------------------------------- THE NEW BASE FARE MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL BASE FARE FOLLOWING ANY TICKET CHANGES. -------------------------------------------------- IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON- REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. -------------------------------------------------- IN CASES OF NO-SHOW TICKET IS CONSIDERED AS UTILISED AND CANNOT BE REFUNDED OR REBOOKED UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED. -------------------------------------------------- FOR ANY TICKET CHANGES THE STRICTER FARE CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY. -------------------------------------------------- NOTE - SQ CUSTOMER COMMITMENT - SINGAPORE AIRLINES WILL ALLOW CONSUMERS TO CANCEL A RESERVATION MADE USING THE SINGAPORE AIRLINES WEB SITE /WWW.SINGAPOREAIR.COM/ WITHOUT PENALTY FOR 24 HOURS AFTER THE RESERVATION IS MADE. AS LONG AS THAT RESERVATION IS MADE ONE WEEK OR MORE PRIOR TO A FLIGHT/S SCHEDULED DEPARTURE ------------------------------------ CONSUMERS WILL NEED TO CALL OUR CONTACT CENTRE TO CANCEL SUCH ONLINE BOOKINGS NOTE - A USD50 SERVICE FEE WILL BE CHARGED FOR TICKETING SERVICES PROVIDED BY SINGAPOREAIR AIRLINES STAFF AT THE AIRPORTS / TICKET OFFICE / OR THROUGH SINGAPORE AIRLINE/S TELEPHONE RESERVATION LINE. ------ A USD150 SERVISE FEE WILL BE CHARGED FOR SERVICING RTW AND AIRPASS TICKETS. --- FEES WILL BE LEVIED FOR THE FOLLOWING TRACTIONS - TICKET / MCO REFUND - NEW TICKET ISSUANCE - TICKET RE-ISSUANCE OR REVALIDATION - SINGAPORE STOPOVER HOLIDAY HOTELS -- THE SERVICE FEE OF USD50 OR USD150 IS NON-REFUNDABLE
FROM/TO AREA 1 FOR D15USRLC TYPE FARES CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL. NOTE - -------------------------------------------------- FOR ALL JOURNEYS BEFORE/AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NOT ALLOWED -------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. -------------------------------------------------- IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. -------------------------------------------------- YQ WILL NOT BE REFUNDED FOR NON-REFUNDABLE FARES. EXCEPT FOR TICKETS ISSUED IN TAIWAN/INDIA/SOUTH AFRICA AND BRAZIL. -------------------------------------------------- IN CASES OF NO-SHOW TICKET IS CONSIDERED AS UTILISED AND CANNOT BE REFUNDED OR REBOOKED UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED. -------------------------------------------------- FOR ANY CANCELLATIONS THE STRICTER FARE CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY. -------------------------------------------------- CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE USD 250.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - -------------------------------------------------- FOR JOURNEYS TO/FROM AMERICAS / EUROPE / AFRICA SOUTHWEST PACIFIC EXCEPT FOR JOURNEYS BETWEEN RUSSIA AND SWEDEN OR BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND BEFORE/AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD250 -------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CHARGE HAS TO BE CONVERTED INTO LOCAL CURRENCY AT THE BANKERS SELLING RATE. -------------------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. -------------------------------------------------- THE NEW BASE FARE MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL BASE FARE FOLLOWING ANY TICKET CHANGES. -------------------------------------------------- IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON- REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. -------------------------------------------------- IN CASES OF NO-SHOW TICKET IS CONSIDERED AS UTILISED AND CANNOT BE REFUNDED OR REBOOKED UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED. -------------------------------------------------- FOR ANY TICKET CHANGES THE STRICTER FARE CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY. -------------------------------------------------- NOTE - SQ CUSTOMER COMMITMENT - SINGAPORE AIRLINES WILL ALLOW CONSUMERS TO CANCEL A RESERVATION MADE USING THE SINGAPORE AIRLINES WEB SITE /WWW.SINGAPOREAIR.COM/ WITHOUT PENALTY FOR 24 HOURS AFTER THE RESERVATION IS MADE. AS LONG AS THAT RESERVATION IS MADE ONE WEEK OR MORE PRIOR TO A FLIGHT/S SCHEDULED DEPARTURE ------------------------------------ CONSUMERS WILL NEED TO CALL OUR CONTACT CENTRE TO CANCEL SUCH ONLINE BOOKINGS NOTE - A USD50 SERVICE FEE WILL BE CHARGED FOR TICKETING SERVICES PROVIDED BY SINGAPOREAIR AIRLINES STAFF AT THE AIRPORTS / TICKET OFFICE / OR THROUGH SINGAPORE AIRLINE/S TELEPHONE RESERVATION LINE. ------ A USD150 SERVISE FEE WILL BE CHARGED FOR SERVICING RTW AND AIRPASS TICKETS. --- FEES WILL BE LEVIED FOR THE FOLLOWING TRACTIONS - TICKET / MCO REFUND - NEW TICKET ISSUANCE - TICKET RE-ISSUANCE OR REVALIDATION - SINGAPORE STOPOVER HOLIDAY HOTELS -- THE SERVICE FEE OF USD50 OR USD150 IS NON-REFUNDABLE
Last edited by vip66; Mar 21, 2019 at 4:16 pm
Mar 21, 2019, 3:57 pm
#111
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
Programs: UA PP (2MM), BA gold
Posts: 2,195
Thank you!
These SQ rules don't seem to follow the standard fare rule format, or at least not the one I am used to. There does not seem to be any stipulation about changes and reissue, but SQ was showing $250 fee for rebooking on their site for D-fare.
Maybe it's time to head over to EF and see what it says there.
These SQ rules don't seem to follow the standard fare rule format, or at least not the one I am used to. There does not seem to be any stipulation about changes and reissue, but SQ was showing $250 fee for rebooking on their site for D-fare.
Maybe it's time to head over to EF and see what it says there.
Mar 22, 2019, 9:17 am
#115
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: LAS, ZQN
Programs: UA PP (2MM), BA gold
Posts: 2,195
I tried with LAX and ended up a thousand dollars more so did not even try SFO (but that was originating in JFK). Fare Rules do not spell out fare ($$$). Fares are based on origin and destination. Even if you can get SFO to work (which you can) the fare is not the $2200-$2400.
Mar 22, 2019, 9:27 am
#116
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: NYC/PHX
Programs: IATA, Sabre, AvgeekAgent
Posts: 1,958
AT01* /VIA THE ATLANTIC/ PUBLISHED RTG 6999 1. NYC-SQ-FRA-SQ-SIN-SQ/MI-FRA 2. NYC-SQ-SIN-SQ/MI-FRA 3. NYC-SQ-FRA
Mar 22, 2019, 9:46 am
#117
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,006
Though seems I can't price it as SQ.com gives an error "route not operated" and OTA/Matrix/Kayak shows only full fare J pricing each segmnet separately
Any hint?
Mar 22, 2019, 10:22 am
#118
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver
Posts: 2,488
Correction: obviously I meant SIN-JFK via FRA above
Last edited by Keter; Mar 23, 2019 at 12:14 am
Mar 22, 2019, 7:26 pm
#119
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 19
Snagged JFK-SIN-FRA (D - business) FRA-JFK (V - economy) for $1712. Worked out perfectly for a work trip to Singapore in October. Wanted to do a longer stop-over in FRA on the way back, but couldn't get it to price anywhere close when adding a layover. Either way, thanks to the OP for alerting on this deal.
-Dan
-Dan