(Premium Fare Gone): One World: KTM-various USA from $1100 o/w; $2200 r/t
Mar 7, 2019, 6:16 pm
#46
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AA Flagship First Dining.
It’s a separate mini lounge / dining area separated from the Flagship lounges that’s reserved mainly for AA F ticketed passengers flying international F or transcon LAX-JFK or vice versa (along with a few other smaller groups).
Better food, Krug, generally nice vibe and a LOT more relaxing than the main lounges.
Not worth a super significant premium - but if you enjoy flying and want the extra tier points then it’s worth it (to me).
It’s a separate mini lounge / dining area separated from the Flagship lounges that’s reserved mainly for AA F ticketed passengers flying international F or transcon LAX-JFK or vice versa (along with a few other smaller groups).
Better food, Krug, generally nice vibe and a LOT more relaxing than the main lounges.
Not worth a super significant premium - but if you enjoy flying and want the extra tier points then it’s worth it (to me).
Mar 7, 2019, 7:48 pm
#47
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yeah, AA allows upgrades for multiple segments in same res as long as there is no stopover. If you did ktm-hkg-lax-sfo (stopover)-jfk then you would not get the upgrade via one mikes payment.
Mar 8, 2019, 8:36 am
#48
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I'm likely to pull the trigger on this on aa.com, KTM-HKG-DFW-ATL, for $1,255. (The base fare is $1,010)
The Cathay Dragon flight is sold as KA103, so I assume I'll accrue per the CX mileage earnings chart for that leg. How does AA determine what's "remaining" of the $1010 base fare to calculate my RDMs for the HKG-DFW-ATL portion? I thought there used to be a window on aa.com detailing what your earnings would be, or is that maybe only once you've completed the purchase?
The Cathay Dragon flight is sold as KA103, so I assume I'll accrue per the CX mileage earnings chart for that leg. How does AA determine what's "remaining" of the $1010 base fare to calculate my RDMs for the HKG-DFW-ATL portion? I thought there used to be a window on aa.com detailing what your earnings would be, or is that maybe only once you've completed the purchase?
Mar 8, 2019, 9:43 am
#49
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I'm likely to pull the trigger on this on aa.com, KTM-HKG-DFW-ATL, for $1,255. (The base fare is $1,010)
The Cathay Dragon flight is sold as KA103, so I assume I'll accrue per the CX mileage earnings chart for that leg. How does AA determine what's "remaining" of the $1010 base fare to calculate my RDMs for the HKG-DFW-ATL portion? I thought there used to be a window on aa.com detailing what your earnings would be, or is that maybe only once you've completed the purchase?
The Cathay Dragon flight is sold as KA103, so I assume I'll accrue per the CX mileage earnings chart for that leg. How does AA determine what's "remaining" of the $1010 base fare to calculate my RDMs for the HKG-DFW-ATL portion? I thought there used to be a window on aa.com detailing what your earnings would be, or is that maybe only once you've completed the purchase?
Mar 20, 2019, 3:09 pm
#50
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Just got a schedule change email from AA, looks like the KTMHKG flight is now leaving at 9:15pm and arriving at 4:25am. Ouch!!
I booked via Hong Kong in order to be able to upgrade the AA segments to first. I have since learned that the rooting via ICN on Korean Airlines is a decent option in that it’s possible to get seated in the first class cabin on the KTMICN segment. KE don’t sell first class but fly a plane that has a first class cabin...
I booked via Hong Kong in order to be able to upgrade the AA segments to first. I have since learned that the rooting via ICN on Korean Airlines is a decent option in that it’s possible to get seated in the first class cabin on the KTMICN segment. KE don’t sell first class but fly a plane that has a first class cabin...
Last edited by stephem; Mar 20, 2019 at 3:27 pm
Mar 20, 2019, 4:11 pm
#51
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Just got a schedule change email from AA, looks like the KTMHKG flight is now leaving at 9:15pm and arriving at 4:25am. Ouch!!
I booked via Hong Kong in order to be able to upgrade the AA segments to first. I have since learned that the rooting via ICN on Korean Airlines is a decent option in that it’s possible to get seated in the first class cabin on the KTMICN segment. KE don’t sell first class but fly a plane that has a first class cabin...
I booked via Hong Kong in order to be able to upgrade the AA segments to first. I have since learned that the rooting via ICN on Korean Airlines is a decent option in that it’s possible to get seated in the first class cabin on the KTMICN segment. KE don’t sell first class but fly a plane that has a first class cabin...
I thought this fare is gone!? Still showing up as active here?
Last edited by skywalkerLAX; Mar 20, 2019 at 4:16 pm Reason: Fare GONE?
Mar 20, 2019, 7:58 pm
#53
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Also, they do allow paid biz tickets to seat in the F cabin on this route.
Lastly, fare (or fares I should say as there are many city pairs) is still alive.
Mar 20, 2019, 10:19 pm
#54
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Thats a sweeping statement as KE planes are not all the same. The 777-200 that flies this route is not the case. The biz cabin is 2-3-2 and the first cabin 1-2-1.
Also, they do allow paid biz tickets to seat in the F cabin on this route.
Lastly, fare (or fares I should say as there are many city pairs) is still alive.
Two weeks ago I took BKK-ICN-BKK on a 777-300 and it was 1 row with the identical seat - a complete joke!
Mar 21, 2019, 4:29 am
#55
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Food poisoning notwithstanding, KE-First was inferior to AA-Business trans-pac.
Mar 21, 2019, 8:18 am
#56
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But on the comparison w AA, I think the appropriate comparison is to the KA regional seat on the short overnight hop from KTM to HKG. That’s why i was contemplating using the schedule change to get a route change through ICN. But i give up HKG-LAX in F for ICN-DFW which has no F cabin to upgrade to if I were to do that.
Mar 21, 2019, 12:14 pm
#57
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I flew that route a week ago, and indeed KE automatically upgraded me to First. The upgrade is of course appreciated, but I can't say I was too impressed with that First Class or KE service. I also suspect KE gave me food poisoning, which became apparent at ICN. Fortunately I had some meds for such contingency, so my upset stomach calmed down after an hour or two.
Food poisoning notwithstanding, KE-First was inferior to AA-Business trans-pac.
Food poisoning notwithstanding, KE-First was inferior to AA-Business trans-pac.
Apr 8, 2019, 7:40 am
#59
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I eventually pulled the trigger on this one (or a variation of it) that got me to LAS for $2,266 round trip. KTM-HKG-DFW-LAS and return. I called AA after ticketing and easily upgraded the long legs to first with 25,000 miles each way and am pretty happy with that. A availability for the upgrade is plentiful on HKG-DFW and vice-versa. I went with the longer routing for the increased AS mileage as it'll push me close to AS MVPG75 with the other travel I have booked this year.
Thank you to OP and everyone else who commented with advice on finding the route and booking. ITA Matrix + BookWithMatrix + AA's web site made this one easy.
Thank you to OP and everyone else who commented with advice on finding the route and booking. ITA Matrix + BookWithMatrix + AA's web site made this one easy.
Apr 8, 2019, 9:55 am
#60
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So the million dollar question...anyone have a way to book AA flights across the pond but with CX flight numbers so I can get mileage credit based on the AA chart for partners. Oh and I still want to upgrade to F with AA miles. Anyone have a way to do this?