LH AMS-EZE-AMS J ( P ) return 1220 EUR
Dec 16, 2018, 12:02 pm
#31
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Do not limit yourself to LX and miss out the experience flying 747 upper-deck. LH P credits to AC, CA, UA, and NH. I recommend crediting P fares to NH, although only 70%, their redemption rates are much lower with very little fees (surcharges and taxes). Not sure about AmEx MR programs outside US but NH is one of the transfer partners here, with couple cheap LH P trips and some MR points you'll soon have enough miles for another long haul award J tickets (75K rt US-Japan).
Coincidentally, ANA's Mileage Club is also the most versatile with non-*A carriers such as PR (where you'll also find cheap J fares often).
p.s. If you're not flying frequently obviously try to maximize miles with TK, but once you renew your status (easy with 40K first year for 2 more years), it pays to explore other *A options and venues.
Coincidentally, ANA's Mileage Club is also the most versatile with non-*A carriers such as PR (where you'll also find cheap J fares often).
p.s. If you're not flying frequently obviously try to maximize miles with TK, but once you renew your status (easy with 40K first year for 2 more years), it pays to explore other *A options and venues.
Dec 16, 2018, 12:40 pm
#32
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SQ will require 190K miles in J between Europe and Asia round trip, the same can be done with NH for 90K miles (also same with TK if you can find limited capacity in J). I just odn't understand how bloggers keep raving about putting/transferring miles into SQ, perhaps they're focused on SQ's First Class. Also a reminder that when redeeming, you're not limited to a FFP's operating flights, they can be other *A carriers, sometimes even outside *A.
p.s. Depending on your flying pattern, CA is also a viable option, you get 100% in km with P fare and their J redemption rates are on par with NH (after converting into miles).
This is correct. However I've received TK miles from Helvetic (LX) and Wamos (AV), can't speak for other *A carriers/FFPs.
Last edited by vincewy; Dec 16, 2018 at 12:55 pm
Dec 17, 2018, 5:49 am
#33
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WK is not flying wetlease. They operate their own brand. Only some flights under LX Flight number will credit to MM and UA, but thats mostly it.
Dec 17, 2018, 6:43 am
#34
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TK M&S will not credit any miles for WK operated flights (regardless if booked with LX codeshare No - the latter is of no importance for miles/points accrual within *A). Period
It has been reported elsewhere that WK J product (hard and soft) is at least on par with LX and LH if not better.
It has been reported elsewhere that WK J product (hard and soft) is at least on par with LX and LH if not better.
Dec 18, 2018, 3:34 pm
#35
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It’s back with even better availabilty!
With this availabilty we could have stayed a couple of days more for fhe same price
With this availabilty we could have stayed a couple of days more for fhe same price
Dec 18, 2018, 4:14 pm
#36
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...SQ will require 190K miles in J between Europe and Asia round trip, the same can be done with NH for 90K miles (also same with TK if you can find limited capacity in J).....
.... Also a reminder that when redeeming, you're not limited to a FFP's operating flights, they can be other *A carriers, sometimes even outside *A.
.... Also a reminder that when redeeming, you're not limited to a FFP's operating flights, they can be other *A carriers, sometimes even outside *A.
For *A services I believe its the alliance redemption rates that apply.
Dec 18, 2018, 5:05 pm
#37
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therefore it applies to *A services too. Atleast for TK, i cannot comment on NH
Dec 18, 2018, 6:56 pm
#38
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It's just that I have never been able to secure TK's lowest rates for carriers other than TK, clearly I need to try harder.
Dec 24, 2018, 1:23 pm
#39
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LH/LX - CDG -> GIG from 1,350 EUR in J return
Great fare from LH Group:
https://www.google.com/flights?lite=0#flt=CDG./m/07dfk,HKG,SIN.2019-05-08.CDGZRH0LX645~ZRHHKG0LX138*/m/07dfk,HKG,SIN.CDG.2019-05-14.HKGMUC0LH731~MUCCDG1LH2226;c:CAD;e:1;a:STAR_ALL IANCE*STAR_ALLIANCE;sc:b;sd:1;t:b;sp:2.CAD.287347* 2.CAD.288181
Fairly wide open availability in 2019 with prices creeping up by 100 EUR or so if you want to limit the number of connections or operating carrier.
-James
https://www.google.com/flights?lite=0#flt=CDG./m/07dfk,HKG,SIN.2019-05-08.CDGZRH0LX645~ZRHHKG0LX138*/m/07dfk,HKG,SIN.CDG.2019-05-14.HKGMUC0LH731~MUCCDG1LH2226;c:CAD;e:1;a:STAR_ALL IANCE*STAR_ALLIANCE;sc:b;sd:1;t:b;sp:2.CAD.287347* 2.CAD.288181
Fairly wide open availability in 2019 with prices creeping up by 100 EUR or so if you want to limit the number of connections or operating carrier.
-James
Dec 24, 2018, 1:53 pm
#40
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LH - AMS -> EZE from 1,250 EUR in J return
Spotted on flights:
https://www.google.com/flights?lite=0#flt=/m/0k3p.EZE,GIG,GRU,SCL.2019-01-22.AMSMUC0LH2303~MUCFRA0LH119~FRAEZE0LH510*EZE,GIG ,GRU,SCL./m/0k3p.2019-01-30.EZEFRA0LH511~FRAAMS1LH996;c:CAD;e:1;sc:b;sd:1;t :b;sp:2.CAD.195195*2.CAD.195195
Decent availability in 2019 with some options on amount of connections.
Looks like LH is having a field day on legacy J products ex-DAK zone!
Safe Travels,
James
https://www.google.com/flights?lite=0#flt=/m/0k3p.EZE,GIG,GRU,SCL.2019-01-22.AMSMUC0LH2303~MUCFRA0LH119~FRAEZE0LH510*EZE,GIG ,GRU,SCL./m/0k3p.2019-01-30.EZEFRA0LH511~FRAAMS1LH996;c:CAD;e:1;sc:b;sd:1;t :b;sp:2.CAD.195195*2.CAD.195195
Decent availability in 2019 with some options on amount of connections.
Looks like LH is having a field day on legacy J products ex-DAK zone!
Safe Travels,
James
Dec 24, 2018, 4:55 pm
#41
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Dec 24, 2018, 5:20 pm
#42
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-James
Jan 1, 2019, 7:30 am
#43
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You are so right. The upper deck is tight, it seems you are in economy, no idea why would people like to sit there. Besides the V shapped LH C class is the worst seat they could have done. Service is so so, food bad. If you must fly than it is of course excellent price, almost the same as economy Q for example. It is 13:45h flight, I would really check if the price/quality meet my needs!
Jan 1, 2019, 9:28 am
#44
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You are so right. The upper deck is tight, it seems you are in economy, no idea why would people like to sit there. Besides the V shapped LH C class is the worst seat they could have done. Service is so so, food bad. If you must fly than it is of course excellent price, almost the same as economy Q for example. It is 13:45h flight, I would really check if the price/quality meet my needs!
People want the upper deck because it is quieter, more peaceful than the dorm downstairs, and perhaps because Lufthansa manage to keep seat blocking effective. When a flight isn't full I'm pretty certain to find myself with with two seats upper deck seats to myself.
You are absolutely right about the unpleasant intimacy when strangers do occupy a seat pair. But service is generally of the friendly yet formal straightforward type I appreciate, and the food something I've never thought too much about.