AA HKG-PEK/ICN/TYO-DFW-MEX/GDL/CUN r/t $1,845
Dec 9, 2018, 12:26 pm
#47
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 781
Hello stageworks: did you include any stopovers (or overnight transit) in the US? I would like to do a MR like yours but I think my body needs more rest during the trip. Thanks. Do you mind sharing the GF link?
Dec 9, 2018, 12:38 pm
#49
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA usa
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Posts: 125
Dec 9, 2018, 12:52 pm
#50
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
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It doesn't matter which airline's stock the ticket is issued on; what matters is how the flight is marketed. If the flights are marketed as AA flights, they will be credited to AAdvantage based on fare, not distance.
Dec 9, 2018, 1:48 pm
#51
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,846
So, I was considering combining this deal with an AY J YYZ-HKG ticket, which then made me wonder how good of a deal this actually is for those based in the US (and NYC/east coast in particular). I'm thinking about this from the perspective of someone who would make two (or more) trips to HKG from the east coast next year.
If I'm crediting to AY, no-brainer I would just book AY J tickets to HKG.
Even if I were to credit to AA, the AY ticket would get me (starting next year) ~38,000 EQMs and ~4750 EQDs (25% of 19,000 miles flown) for ~$2600. This ticket would get me ~45,000 EQMs and ~1800 EQDs for ~$1900. Yes, that's a ~$700 difference (and this fare has the potential of upgrading to F), but the cost of positioning to/from CUN (as opposed to YYZ or YUL) cuts into the difference. And the EQDs here are not great. And this fare is less flexible than the AY fare in terms of stopovers and such. Am I missing something? . . .
If I'm crediting to AY, no-brainer I would just book AY J tickets to HKG.
Even if I were to credit to AA, the AY ticket would get me (starting next year) ~38,000 EQMs and ~4750 EQDs (25% of 19,000 miles flown) for ~$2600. This ticket would get me ~45,000 EQMs and ~1800 EQDs for ~$1900. Yes, that's a ~$700 difference (and this fare has the potential of upgrading to F), but the cost of positioning to/from CUN (as opposed to YYZ or YUL) cuts into the difference. And the EQDs here are not great. And this fare is less flexible than the AY fare in terms of stopovers and such. Am I missing something? . . .
Dec 9, 2018, 1:59 pm
#52
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Between SFO and STS
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This is annoying... It specifically states unlimited stopovers in the fare rules, but any stopovers (in the US) ruin the price. I also noticed there is a minimum 12 hour rule at the destination as well (for those looking to MR). I have also seen PVR as well as CUN, MEX, SJD, & GDL.
Dec 9, 2018, 2:03 pm
#53
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Dec 9, 2018, 2:10 pm
#54
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Between SFO and STS
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Argh! Forgot about that silly thing. Or maybe it was repression...
Dec 9, 2018, 2:57 pm
#55
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: PIT-SCE-AOO-PHL-NYC-WAS
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Posts: 1,036
grr @ phantom fares on google flights. Saw $1900ish for HKG-LAX-JFK-CUN roundtrip but errors came up on payment page. Anyone have same issue? Matrix isn't showing the prices on this routing.
Dec 9, 2018, 4:23 pm
#56
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, AA Exec Plat
Posts: 715
Not really understanding this. So it's possible to add a stopover in but probably need a TA to ticket?
Dec 9, 2018, 6:55 pm
#57
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Join Date: May 2017
Location: SIN
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So, I was considering combining this deal with an AY J YYZ-HKG ticket, which then made me wonder how good of a deal this actually is for those based in the US (and NYC/east coast in particular). I'm thinking about this from the perspective of someone who would make two (or more) trips to HKG from the east coast next year.
If I'm crediting to AY, no-brainer I would just book AY J tickets to HKG.
Even if I were to credit to AA, the AY ticket would get me (starting next year) ~38,000 EQMs and ~4750 EQDs (25% of 19,000 miles flown) for ~$2600. This ticket would get me ~45,000 EQMs and ~1800 EQDs for ~$1900. Yes, that's a ~$700 difference (and this fare has the potential of upgrading to F), but the cost of positioning to/from CUN (as opposed to YYZ or YUL) cuts into the difference. And the EQDs here are not great. And this fare is less flexible than the AY fare in terms of stopovers and such. Am I missing something? . . .
If I'm crediting to AY, no-brainer I would just book AY J tickets to HKG.
Even if I were to credit to AA, the AY ticket would get me (starting next year) ~38,000 EQMs and ~4750 EQDs (25% of 19,000 miles flown) for ~$2600. This ticket would get me ~45,000 EQMs and ~1800 EQDs for ~$1900. Yes, that's a ~$700 difference (and this fare has the potential of upgrading to F), but the cost of positioning to/from CUN (as opposed to YYZ or YUL) cuts into the difference. And the EQDs here are not great. And this fare is less flexible than the AY fare in terms of stopovers and such. Am I missing something? . . .
- Origin market is primarily HKG and Asia-based mileage runners
- Destination market is Mexico, people can also go south to Latin America instead of north (let's face it the USA is kinda boring is a holiday destination)
- Optimal credit is to AS, BA, CX for HKG-based...
- CX/AA reverse herringbone is less cramped than AY reverse herringbone
Dec 9, 2018, 7:30 pm
#58
Join Date: Jan 2012
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The fare isn't primarily meant for people like you
- Origin market is primarily HKG and Asia-based mileage runners
- Destination market is Mexico, people can also go south to Latin America instead of north (let's face it the USA is kinda boring is a holiday destination)
- Optimal credit is to AS, BA, CX for HKG-based...
- CX/AA reverse herringbone is less cramped than AY reverse herringbone
- Origin market is primarily HKG and Asia-based mileage runners
- Destination market is Mexico, people can also go south to Latin America instead of north (let's face it the USA is kinda boring is a holiday destination)
- Optimal credit is to AS, BA, CX for HKG-based...
- CX/AA reverse herringbone is less cramped than AY reverse herringbone