Air China: ZRH/GVA-SIN/BKK/CGK/MNL/SGN/etc US$1650 rt
Sep 7, 2018, 2:30 pm
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Not much info here about CA — how is the Limo service in PEK? I like airoli‘s comparison with LH, reading this I assume they would beat BA‘s dorm style product by miles?
Any other advice on CA? We will try out more or less their entire widebody fleet — 748, 333, 787, 330.....
And many thanks again to the OP for bringing this to my attention!
Sep 9, 2018, 4:39 am
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Not necessarily 'better' than BA's. CA's seat lack any privacy, but I like their full forward facing seats on their A330s. Long, wide enough, and very comfortable. Haven't tried their 748s or 787s. But I think their 748s have quite narrow footwells. (BA's seats on the other hand can be quite private, and I find them very comfortable.)
Nothing much to say, don't go in with high expectations and you may be pleasantly surprised. I always find the crew to be really good. IFE can be limited. Drinks may not be prepared to 'western' standards (I've had a glass of vodka and a glass of tomato juice bough instead of a bloody mary... but hey, it was a nice strong drink!). Meal service can be more Chinese style... lots of courses coming out in rapid succession rather than waiting till you've finished one then bringing the next. Some flights this can mean a full meal tray.
But they're safe. The A330s at least are very comfortable.
Sep 9, 2018, 9:06 am
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This fare seems to fade in and out.
But I've been looking for months for a ticket SGN-VCE. I was resigned to flying SU for $900, but then VN lowered their fare to $1179, as I wanted to fly the A350, but that's the price I paid last year in Premium Economy on AF SGN-CDG-VCE.
Choice was not to go. But the Air China thing popped up on my computer today and they had a number of days with $1300 RT SGN-PEK-MXP Business Z. So I pulled the trigger. Flight at about same price is also available to MUC.
First time in many years I'm taking a non SkyTeam flight, but the wiring is on the wall. Half my flying is international, but even Platinum doesn't give me Global Upgrades so I might as well go on price.
I'll be DL PM again next year, but maybe fall to Gold after. AS long as I'm ST Elite Plus it works for me.
Suggestions as to where to credit the miles will be appreciated.
But I've been looking for months for a ticket SGN-VCE. I was resigned to flying SU for $900, but then VN lowered their fare to $1179, as I wanted to fly the A350, but that's the price I paid last year in Premium Economy on AF SGN-CDG-VCE.
Choice was not to go. But the Air China thing popped up on my computer today and they had a number of days with $1300 RT SGN-PEK-MXP Business Z. So I pulled the trigger. Flight at about same price is also available to MUC.
First time in many years I'm taking a non SkyTeam flight, but the wiring is on the wall. Half my flying is international, but even Platinum doesn't give me Global Upgrades so I might as well go on price.
I'll be DL PM again next year, but maybe fall to Gold after. AS long as I'm ST Elite Plus it works for me.
Suggestions as to where to credit the miles will be appreciated.
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Sep 10, 2018, 8:09 am
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1.15 is fine for MUC. You only need to clear Immigration, so will most likely even have time for a drink in the Lounge. Baggage will be checked through, you should get your CA B/Passes in BSL.
Sep 10, 2018, 8:15 am
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A330's indeed have the beast seats (the same as on TK and LO).
Sep 10, 2018, 9:17 am
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Go to lufthansa.com Manage Your Booking - enter LH PNR (will differ from CA TravelSky GDS PNR) and choose seats. If you do not have Lufthansa PNR (i.e. reservation number) I guess you need to call CA and ask for it.
1.15 is fine for MUC. You only need to clear Immigration, so will most likely even have time for a drink in the Lounge. Baggage will be checked through, you should get your CA B/Passes in BSL.
1.15 is fine for MUC. You only need to clear Immigration, so will most likely even have time for a drink in the Lounge. Baggage will be checked through, you should get your CA B/Passes in BSL.
Thank you for all your help and thank for posting this great fare
Sep 12, 2018, 7:49 am
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Just a note that you don't need to call CA to get LH PRD. What Air China calls "Online refund reference" (should be in your booking confirmation alongside the Air China PRD) is actually Amadeus PRD that is accepted by LH.com. So you can enter this in Manage My Booking on lh.com and select your seats.
Sep 12, 2018, 8:29 am
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It has absolutely nothing to do with CA's pricing from SGN to anywhere in Europe...
Sep 13, 2018, 2:44 am
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But the real question is what woke you up? Since many of the posts here are off point according to you?? Or is just a quiet day in Zurich?
Sep 13, 2018, 5:10 am
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Hi I think airoli has a point. This fare is about ZRH/GVA originated fare or POS (point of sale) to Southeast Asia (SIN/BKK...). For fares originated SGN, you are welcome to open a new thread. But please kindly keep the discussion within the thread title: that is ZRH/GVA originated fares on CA. And please do not get upset if someone point out the fact to you. It is what it is. I don't think airoli is trying to blame you or try to attack you, but simply to point out the fact to you. In this forum, when someone puts a title of AAA-BBB fare thread, it normally means originated from AAA only. That is due to almost all fares are restricted to the point of origin, So as a rule of premium fares, unless the poster specify the fare works from both end, please assume the fares only works from ZRH/GVA. Of course you are free to report back that the fares works from SGN to ZRH/GVA too. I think people will welcome the information. If that is case I think your writing is not clear on your intention. You could start your post with something like 'Hey guys the fare works from SGN too. Here is what I found...' to avoid confusion. Any way I hope my post helps you a little. And please kindly take it easy and be friendly. Thank you.
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Sep 13, 2018, 10:03 am
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Hi I think airoli has a point. This fare is about ZRH/GVA originated fare or POS (point of sale) to Southeast Asia (SIN/BKK...). For fares originated SGN, you are welcome to open a new thread. But please kindly keep the discussion within the thread title: that is ZRH/GVA originated fares on CA. And please do not get upset if someone point out the fact to you. It is what it is. I don't think airoli is trying to blame you or try to attack you, but simply to point out the fact to you. In this forum, when someone puts a title of AAA-BBB fare thread, it normally means originated from AAA only. That is due to almost all fares are restricted to the point of origin, So as a rule of premium fares, unless the poster specify the fare works from both end, please assume the fares only works from ZRH/GVA. Of course you are free to report back that the fares works from SGN to ZRH/GVA too. I think people will welcome the information. If that is case I think your writing is not clear on your intention. You could start your post with something like 'Hey guys the fare works from SGN too. Here is what I found...' to avoid confusion. Any way I hope my post helps you a little. And please kindly take it easy and be friendly. Thank you.
I see talk of Aukland and 747 vs 787 and A330's
I could care less if they delete my posts. I just posted here because if you haven't noticed many people look for a deal because it also may be applicable to similar routing, which my post was about.
And yes, it seems a bit directed at me when half the posts on the thread are off topic.
I'll try not to dis-spoil your beautiful Zurich scenery again.
Sep 13, 2018, 12:18 pm
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So you must not have read the poss above?
I see talk of Aukland and 747 vs 787 and A330's
I could care less if they delete my posts. I just posted here because if you haven't noticed many people look for a deal because it also may be applicable to similar routing, which my post was about.
And yes, it seems a bit directed at me when half the posts on the thread are off topic.
I'll try not to dis-spoil your beautiful Zurich scenery again.
I see talk of Aukland and 747 vs 787 and A330's
I could care less if they delete my posts. I just posted here because if you haven't noticed many people look for a deal because it also may be applicable to similar routing, which my post was about.
And yes, it seems a bit directed at me when half the posts on the thread are off topic.
I'll try not to dis-spoil your beautiful Zurich scenery again.
The remark on 748/787 is one a poster ask about CA's business class seats, which is related to this thread, not off topic.
Look, nobody is blaming you or trying to making you look bad. in fact, many people here would thank you to let them know the deal is available from SGN. airoli posted his remarks in the most non-confrontational way, just a friendly reminder to try to keep this thread in its course. I am just trying to help you here by making sure you did not take airoli's remark in the wrong way and make some suggestions to your post to avoid confusion.
I am sure you would understand later on once you have been in this forum for a while. I wish you best and find your way here and enjoy the forum.
Sep 15, 2018, 5:39 pm
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Although to be fair... it almost common place in these threads for at least one person to ask ‘does the fare work in reverse?’ Think of the poster being preemptive in this case 
