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Old Sep 2, 2018, 7:22 am
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ST: Saudia First class - HBE (Alexandrie, Egypt)-JFK (OJ LAX possible) +- €1500

Pretty nice fare out of North-Africa. Saudia's first class is solid enough, and the A bucket credits 200% on many programs (150XP for the return when crediting to FB)
Open-jaw with outbound LAX, inbound JFK possible for a little more.
I guess you need to call to book, as I can't find the itinerary online.

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Fare rules & restrictions

Saudia (SV) IRTEG ALY to NYC
General notes
BASIC SEASON BUSINESS RESTRICTED FARES I FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
Category 1: Eligibility restrictions
NOTE - V/N/T/Q/L/H CLASS NOT VALID FOR PASSENGERS HOLDING HAJJ VISA. TICKET NONREFUNDABLE OR CHANGEABLE. UNACCOMPANIED INFANTS NOT ELIGIBLE
Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 31DEC.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING SV FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 9999. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY SV FLIGHT.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. NOTE - FOR GO SHOW PASSENGER ON M CLASS OR B CLASS RESERVATION ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR PASSENGERS PURCHASING TICKET AT THE SV ATO ONLY -------- IF A TICKET IS USED OUT OF SEQUENCE SV RESERVES TH E RIGHT TO CANCEL ANY PNR OR INVALIDATE THE REMAIN ING FLIGHT COUPONS.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST - 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION LIMITED TO 1 FREE AND 1 AT USD 90.00. 1 FREE IN RUH 1 IN MED AT USD 90.00 1 IN JED AT USD 90.00. INFANT IS FREE.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 FREE TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION FREE IN SAUDI ARABIA FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH SV DOMESTIC/ INTERNATIONAL FARES VIA SAUDI ARABIA/SAUDI ARABIA. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH SV FARES -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS. THE MILEAGE FOR AN INTERNATIONAL OPEN SEGMENT IS EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THE MILEAGE FOR THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. THERE IS NO MILEAGE RESTRICTION ON AN OPEN SEGMENT WITHIN ONE COUNTRY. -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ECONOMY RESTRICTED/BUSINESS RESTRICTED/FIRST CLASS RESTRICTED-TYPE FARES IN RULE 3710 IN TARIFF IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC.
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT. THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. ORIGINATING EGYPT - A SURCHARGE OF USD 2000.00 PER TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FROM 09JUN 18 THROUGH 30JUN 18 OR - A SURCHARGE OF USD 2000.00 PER TICKET WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FROM 12AUG 18 THROUGH 24AUG 18.
Category 14: Travel restrictions
NOTE - PASSENGER HOLDING UMRAH / HAJJ VISA SHOULD ARRIVE / DEPURATE FROM JED AND MED AIPORTS ONLY TRAVEL THROUGH ANY AIRPORTS FOR PASSENGER HOLDING UMRAH /HAJJ VISA IS PROHIBITED .
Category 15: Sales restrictions
ORIGINATING EGYPT - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SV AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN QATAR PAYMENT MAY NOT BE MADE BY GTR. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. NOTE - PAYMENT - CASH / CREDIT CARD APPROVED BY SAUDIA / COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
NOTE - EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
Category 16: Penalties
ORIGINATING EGYPT - CHANGES ANY TIME PER COUPON CHARGE 25 PERCENT FOR NO-SHOW. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - RESERVATION REQUIRED TKT MUST NOT LEFT OPEN. WHEN THE COUPON IS SUSPENDED. ONLY ONE PENALTY IS APPLIED IN ORDER TO REVALIDATE/REISSUE OR REFUND AT SAME TIME. PER TICKET CHARGE SAR 200.00 FOR REISSUE/ REVALIDATION. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - FOR PARTIALLY USED TICKET NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE ----------------------------- FOR UNUSED TICKET NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING FARES IN EFFECT ON DATE OF REISSUE ----------------------------- UPGRADE TO FIRST FREE OF CHARGE. CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME PER TICKET CHARGE SAR 300.00 FOR REFUND. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - E3 TAX IS NON-REFUNDABLE EXCEPT FOR INVOLUNTARY CASES
Category 17: HIP exceptions
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - TKT VALD 1Y FRM ISSUE DATE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 12 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. NOTE - WHERE THE ROUTING INCLUDES ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CARRIERS- UA OR ANY SEGMENT OF TW WITHIN THE CONTINENTAL USA-JOINT FARES DO NOT APPLY TO CHILDREN 8 YEARS OF AGE OR OVER BUT UNDER 12 YEARS OF AGE WHO ARE NOT ACCOMPANIED FROM ORIGIN TO DESTINATION BY A PASSENGER AT LEAST 12 YEARS OF AGE. SEE RULE 25- /REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT-LIMITATIONS OF CARRIAGE/ FOR FURTHER DETAILS AND RESTRICTIONS.
Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 50 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 50 PERCENT OF THE FARE OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 12 - CHARGE 50 PERCENT OF THE FARE. NOTE - WHERE THE ROUTING INCLUDES ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CARRIERS- UA OR ANY SEGMENT OF TW WITHIN THE CONTINENTAL USA-JOINT FARES DO NOT APPLY TO CHILDREN 8 YEARS OF AGE OR OVER BUT UNDER 12 YEARS OF AGE WHO ARE NOT ACCOMPANIED FROM ORIGIN TO DESTINATION BY A PASSENGER AT LEAST 12 YEARS OF AGE. SEE RULE 25- /REFUSAL TO TRANSPORT-LIMITATIONS OF CARRIAGE/ FOR FURTHER DETAILS AND RESTRICTIONS.
Category 20: Tour Discounts
NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
Category 22: Other Discounts


Category 22: Other Discounts
NOTE - DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
Category 31: Voluntary changes
ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST - IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF SV INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE SAR 200.00 FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. SV FARES ARE USED 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF TRAVEL ON OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT OF PRICING UNIT CHANGED/OTHERWISE FROM PREVIOUS ISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF SV INTERNATIONAL FARES NO CHARGE FOR REISSUE OR SUM OF FEES OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. SV FARE TYPE FR IS USED 4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF TRAVEL ON OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT OF PRICING UNIT CHANGED/OTHERWISE FROM PREVIOUS ISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF SV INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE 25 PERCENT FOR REISSUE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT TODAY B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 3. SV FARES ARE USED 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM NEW TKT ISSUE DATE IF TRAVEL ON OUTBOUND FARE COMPONENT OF PRICING UNIT CHANGED/OTHERWISE FROM PREVIOUS ISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
Category 50: Application
NORMAL/ECONOMY/EXCURSION FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY BETWEEN MIDDLE EAST/EUROPE/AFRICA/AREA 3 AND THE UNITED STATES VIA SAUDI ARABIA. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/ORIGIN SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 7:35 am
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Great fare, but as you say, I can't get it to come to a final "real" price -- it's not even listed in the travel agent GDS. Anyone have any luck?
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 8:51 am
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Don't forget that Saudia is a dry airline. Also, connections through KSA may require visas.
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 9:07 am
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International connections under 12 hours within the same airport do not require visa. I have transited there several times with SV without any issue.

Domestic connections, involving JED-RUH or v.v. for example, require a visa.
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 12:33 pm
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Am I missing something - these are J, not F, fares ... right?
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by aa213bb
Am I missing something - these are J, not F, fares ... right?
The HBE-JED is, but the JED-JFK is in first.
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by RollAnotherFatOne
The HBE-JED is, but the JED-JFK is in first.
Correct, the fare base is for I, but longhaul segment should book into A, according to ITA.
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 1:24 pm
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What is the fare? Is it the IRTEG?
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 1:31 pm
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HBE = Alexandria, Egypt

I tried looking up HBE in the "Airport Code Look-up" at the bottom of this page, but it wasn't there. Google did the job, so thought I'd post it to save others the trip.

Alexandria, Egypt
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 3:10 pm
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Why on earth would anyone want to subject themselves to Saudia...17 hours from Jeddah to LA on that thing...no ta!
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 3:20 pm
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Business or first

When I click the link or go into Saudi web site, the fare that is shown is business for the 2 segments. Am I doing something wrong?
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by ilcannone
Why on earth would anyone want to subject themselves to Saudia...17 hours from Jeddah to LA on that thing...no ta!
It could be very useful for requalification on various SkyTeam programs, for example Flying Blue. The price is certainly good. Could be interesting ti visit Alexandria too. As for Saudia, I will be trying it out in Economy in a few weeks, so I will give feedback from the back of the plane!
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 5:16 pm
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Not sure why some folk complain about SV. I have flown with them in business from JED to FRA and to be honest, I found them outstanding.
Ok, they are a "dry airline", but why should that be an issue for anyone
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by flame
Not sure why some folk complain about SV. I have flown with them in business from JED to FRA and to be honest, I found them outstanding.
Ok, they are a "dry airline", but why should that be an issue for anyone
Because some of us very much like a drink, if not on the plane then in the lounge
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Old Sep 2, 2018, 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by flame
Not sure why some folk complain about SV. I have flown with them in business from JED to FRA and to be honest, I found them outstanding.
Ok, they are a "dry airline", but why should that be an issue for anyone
Seems like a very good price for such nice looking seats in F. I would forego a drink for a nice seat at a nice price....
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