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channa Feb 15, 2018 9:24 pm

DL/VS: LHR-SJC/OAK/SAN/DEN/AUS/PHX/etc. £1,062 / $1,499 RT in J (Fall/Winter)
 
Z fare
Saturday stay
Can book thru DL or VS

Update: Now down to £963 / $1,350

steveholt Feb 15, 2018 9:41 pm

Looks like the TATL flights have to be on VS metal from what I can tell...

channa Feb 15, 2018 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 29422431)
Looks like the TATL flights have to be on VS metal from what I can tell...

Can be DL or VS. DL seems a bit tighter with inventory, though.

flybit Feb 15, 2018 9:49 pm

lets hope this starts a hub war. I need STAR
seems wide open for flights and connections.

Swiss Tony Feb 16, 2018 12:51 am

I see that most of those routes copy the Norwegian ones.

MSPeconomist Feb 16, 2018 12:58 am

Must the RT originate at LHR (versus the USA) for these fares?

Provance Feb 16, 2018 1:10 am

These are all BA unique transatlantic points

Mountain Explorer Feb 16, 2018 1:14 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 29422818)
Must the RT originate at LHR (versus the USA) for these fares?

Of course! These fares always must originate in Europe. This would be the deal of the year if it worked from the US

Provance Feb 16, 2018 1:23 am

General notes
WEEKEND BUSINESS EXCURSION FARES Z Between UNITED KINGDOM and THE UNITED STATES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED FRI THROUGH SUN ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
FROM UNITED KINGDOM - PERMITTED 27MAR 18 THROUGH 05APR 18 OR 26MAY 18 THROUGH 29MAY 18 OR 21JUN 18 THROUGH 04JUL 18 OR 19OCT 18 THROUGH 23OCT 18 OR 19DEC 18 THROUGH 23DEC 18 OR 04APR 19 THROUGH 20APR 19 OR 24MAY 19 THROUGH 27MAY 19 FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. TO UNITED KINGDOM - PERMITTED 07APR 18 THROUGH 16APR 18 OR 30MAY 18 THROUGH 03JUN 18 OR 05JUL 18 THROUGH 18JUL 18 OR 24OCT 18 THROUGH 28OCT 18 OR 14APR 19 THROUGH 23APR 19 OR 28MAY 19 THROUGH 31MAY 19 FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA AMS/PAR. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY DL FLIGHT ANY VS FLIGHT ANY BE FLIGHT ANY HA FLIGHT.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 6 MONTHS BEFORE DEPARTURE. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 14 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 60 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE FREE BETWEEN DL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN THE UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION FREE BETWEEN AF AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN THE UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION FREE BETWEEN KL AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN THE UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION FREE BETWEEN AZ AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN THE UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION FREE BETWEEN AS AND AF/AZ/DL/KL IN THE UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 1 TRANSFER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE FREE BETWEEN DL AND VS IN UNITED KINGDOM IN EACH DIRECTION FREE ON DL ONLY IN UNITED KINGDOM IN EACH DIRECTION FREE BETWEEN DL AND BE IN MAN IN EACH DIRECTION FREE BETWEEN DL AND BE IN DUB IN EACH DIRECTION FREE BETWEEN DL AND BE IN LON IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 1 TRANSFER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE INTERLINE INCLUDING THE PRIMARY CARRIER FREE IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE WITHIN -WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN EUROPE COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER VS BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM/NORTH AMERICA OR FOR CARRIER VS BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM/MEXICO OR FOR CARRIER DL/AF/KL IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. CIRCLE TRIPS NOTE - NOTE - WHEN FARE ARE COMBINED THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CONDITIONS APPLY INCLUDING CANCELLATION AND REFUNDS. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER VS BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM/NORTH AMERICA OR FOR CARRIER VS BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM/MEXICO OR FOR CARRIER DL/AF/KL IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT. ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM - THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL. ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM OUTBOUND - A SURCHARGE OF GBP 29.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL. PROVIDED TRAVEL IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING DL FLIGHT 4340 DL FLIGHT 4394 DL FLIGHT 4396 DL FLIGHT 4408 DL FLIGHT 4368.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/BEFORE 31DEC 18.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON DL OR VS AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/NIGERIA/EGYPT/ZIMBABWE/CUBA EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON DL OR KL AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/NIGERIA/EGYPT/ZIMBABWE/CUBA EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED. OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON DL OR AF AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/NIGERIA/EGYPT/ZIMBABWE/CUBA EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
Category 16: Penalties
CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW. WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER. NOTE - FOR NONREFUNDABLE TICKETS THE YQ/YR CARRIER IMPOSED INTERNATIONAL SURCHARGE WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. TICKET MAY NOT BE APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF ANY OTHER TICKET. DEATH WAIVER MUST BE SUBSTANTIATED BY A VALID MEDICAL/DEATH CERTIFICATE. CANCELLATION FEE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2 NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. LOST TICKET APPLICATION FEE FOR PAPER TICKETS IS USD100.00/CAD100.00 CHANGES CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.
Category 17: HIP exceptions
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREF/NO CHANGES - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER OR - ACCOMPANIED CHILD 12-15 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - YP. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER OR - GBE 12-15 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - YP. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER. NOTE - THE AGE LIMITS REFERRED TO IN THIS RULE SHALL BE THOSE IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL. EXCEPTION- INFANTS WHO REACH THEIR 2ND BIRTHDAY DURING THEIR TRAVEL WILL BE REQUIRED TO OCCUPY A SEAT ON THE OUBOUND AND INBOUND FLIGHTS. THE CHILDS FARE MUST BE APPLIED FOR THE WHOLE JOURNEY. OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT. NOTE - UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN UNDER 5 YEARS OF AGE WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE UNDER ANY CONDITIONS. UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN AGES 5 THROUGH 7 MAY TRAVEL ON NON-STOP FLIGHTS ONLY AND MAY NOT CONNECT TO OTHER AIRLINES. CHILDREN AGES 8 THROUGH 14 MAY TRAVEL UNACCOMPANIED ON DELTAS NON-STOP OR CONNECTING FLIGHTS - BUT MAY NOT CONNECT TO OTHER AIRLINES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DELTA CONNECTION/KLM AND AIR FRANCE.
Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS ANYTIME WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHANGES EXCEPT RBD NOT PERMITTED TO THE FARE COMPONENT- CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
Category 50: Application
BUSINESS CLASS SALE FARES BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT

hartwith Feb 16, 2018 2:39 am

BA has responded by reducing the price of its direct flights for that period.

LHR - SJC now only 1456 GBP RT in J: https://www.google.com/flights/#flt=...32*.EUR.164032

BlueHorizonUK Feb 16, 2018 3:14 am


Originally Posted by hartwith (Post 29422970)
BA has responded by reducing the price of its direct flights for that period.

LHR - SJC now only 1456 GBP RT in J: https://www.google.com/flights/#flt=...32*.EUR.164032

Not sure I would pay an extra £500 to go on BA over DL/VS though

MaxVO Feb 16, 2018 4:00 am


Originally Posted by BlueHorizonUK (Post 29423021)
Not sure I would pay an extra £500 to go on BA over DL/VS though

Their bedbugs cost extra.

Great_circle Feb 16, 2018 4:25 am

Skyteam fares also available to New Orleans

channa Feb 16, 2018 8:36 am


Originally Posted by Provance (Post 29422840)
These are all BA unique transatlantic points

Ahh...thanks for figuring out the puzzle.

Raffles Feb 16, 2018 10:05 am

So .... you need to book six months in advance AND the 2019 dates are not yet bookable.

This means that you can ONLY book this offer if you are willing to return to the UK between 24th and 28th October. That's it :-)


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