CZ/FZ: KRT-Australia $890 RT, N/SE Asia $650 (Full Fare Biz)

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Feb 15, 2018, 7:15 am

#16

AHO

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Quote:

Originally Posted by irishguy28

Irrelevant, in the eyes of USCBP. And you would have to lie on your next ESTA Application, which is never advisable.

Did you have a bad day?
I haven't commented about the US VWP. I just wrote about Transit without visa (TWOV) at Khartoum airport only.

Not all people are interested in visiting the US, but may be interested to use this deal without entering Sudan.

Feb 15, 2018, 7:21 am

#17

irishguy28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AHO

Read the full reply.

You may not be allowed to travel without the necessary visas. Travel (twice!) on tickets having KRT as the final destination means there are two airlines that may refuse to carry you without an entry visa, where required.

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Feb 15, 2018, 7:33 am

#18

AHO

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Quote:

Originally Posted by irishguy28

May or may not.
I have traveled with two separate tickets and had transit at the airport in the country which required a visa but also offered TWOV several times.

As long as you can show the next flight ticket (which departs within 6 hours from the arrival), it shouldn't be a problem. But no guarantee, as you say.

Feb 15, 2018, 9:06 am

#19

SkyTeam Flyer

Join Date: Jan 2017

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I am also looking for a routing via AMS on this, it should be possible but not sure how,
Found this in Amadeus,

1 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-URC-CZ-AKL
2 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-AKL
3 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-SZX-CZ-MEL-JQ/QF/
VA/CZ/NZ-AKL
4 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-SYD-JQ/QF/NZ/VA/
CZ-AKL
5 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-BJS-CZ-BNE-QF/NZ/
VA-AKL
6 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-BJS-CZ-PER-NZ-AKL
7 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-CAN-CZ-CHC-JQ/NZ-
AKL
8 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-CAN-CZ-ADL-NZ-AKL
9 * KRT-FZ-DXB-CZ-CAN/URC/LHW/WUH/SZX-CZ-SYD/MEL/BNE-CI-
AKL
10 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-URC-CZ-AKL
11 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-AKL
12 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-SZX-CZ-MEL-JQ/QF/VA/CZ/
NZ-AKL
13 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-SYD-JQ/QF/NZ/VA/CZ-AKL
14 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-BJS-CZ-BNE-QF/NZ/VA-AKL

15 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-BJS-CZ-PER-NZ-AKL
16 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-CAN-CZ-CHC-JQ/NZ-AKL
17 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-CAN-CZ-ADL-NZ-AKL
18 * KRT-KL/CZ/LY-AMS-CZ-BJS/CAN-CZ-SYD/MEL/BNE-CI-AKL
19 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-URC-CZ-AKL
20 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-AKL
21 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-SZX-CZ-MEL-JQ/QF/VA/CZ/NZ-AKL
22 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-SYD-JQ/QF/NZ/VA/CZ-AKL
23 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-BJS-CZ-BNE-QF/NZ/VA-AKL
24 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-BJS-CZ-PER-NZ-AKL
25 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-CAN-CZ-CHC-JQ/NZ-AKL
26 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-CAN-CZ-ADL-NZ-AKL
27 * KRT-KQ-NBO-CZ-CAN-CZ-SYD/MEL/BNE-CI-AKL
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Feb 15, 2018, 10:08 am

#20

geelgors

Join Date: Sep 2015

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyTeam Flyer

I am also looking for a routing via AMS on this, it should be possible but not sure how,
Found this in Amadeus,

if there is no flight from AMS to KRT it's not possible....

Feb 15, 2018, 12:00 pm

#21

Epicura

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Which is absent. FR are most probably from ancient times when KL still operated AMS-KRT-ADD.

Only possible routing these days on KL is via NBO which is not indicated in these FR.

To all EU and related folks: maybe think twice and reflect about the reasons why KL even decided to terminate this route. Should give you a good idea about this fare and why it’s cheap.

Great fare for people living in the region of KRT but that’s all there’s to tell about this fare.

Feb 15, 2018, 4:28 pm

#22

stephem

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The F fares I have checked out have the same laundry list of specified routings as the business fares and thus you can route through NBO or DXB, in addition to the AMS routing that is now notp possible. However, neither of those cities have an aircraft for the subsequent segment with an F cabin. So at most if you could book the F fare, it would only get you the last segment to Australia in F.

Feb 16, 2018, 5:00 pm

#23

RabbitohRob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bodory

One data point: travelling to KRT should invalidate any ESTA to the US.

Goodbye Sudan, Hello USA...... wow, thanks for this. I would have had no idea otherwise, much appreciated. I think this is what we call dodging a bullet

Feb 17, 2018, 3:23 pm

#24

BA Humbug

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^^ Contrary to all the naysayers, thank you OP! This will be my "big" trip for 2018: KRT-DXB-URC-CAN-CHC/AKL-CAN(HKG)-NBO-KRT, with week-long stops in each city (unlimited stopovers in fare rules!) plus a few days in Khartoum and Omdurman on each end.

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Feb 17, 2018, 4:34 pm

#25

ft543

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For US/Canadian citizens, I'd imagine that flying to KRT would probably lead to a higher chance of SSSS, but would you be disqualified from trusted traveler programs based on a single visit? I'm currently a NEXUS holder.

Last edited by ft543; Feb 17, 2018 at 7:27 pm

Feb 17, 2018, 6:43 pm

#26

PINZOLAU

Join Date: Feb 2018

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Amazing "Big" trip.How can I booking? I search two days can't find it.

Feb 18, 2018, 3:04 am

#27

ElJudioErrante

Join Date: Aug 2017

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyTeam Flyer

KRT/AMS with LY ....a bit odd !

Feb 18, 2018, 4:26 am

#28

ft543

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BA Humbug

I'm still doing research on potential routings but had a few questions for you.

What are you doing in terms of visa? I assume you're flying on a separate ticket between ZRH-KRT, is it possible to TWOV on two tickets?
Similarly, do you have to re-check your bag landside or is there a transfer desk for that?

Last edited by ft543; Feb 18, 2018 at 4:38 am