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KL/AF: BUD- Asia in J from $1450

KL/AF: BUD- Asia in J from $1450

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Old Jan 9, 18, 4:52 am
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KL/AF: BUD- Asia in J from $1450

Good availability in the coming months, 14 day advanced purchase, no minimum stay, 28 day max, books into Z. Bookable on airfrance.com. Cannot find full fare rules (ZP8HU) or how long these fares are valid. Very fine deals for new AF BEST seats on route to SIN for example.


BUD - PVG $1450
https://goo.gl/flights/KvFb


Bud - TYO $1720
https://goo.gl/flights/vJKV


BUD - SIN $1782
https://goo.gl/flights/3Hy7


BUD - HKG $1866
https://goo.gl/flights/QSGK

Other destinations likely available, at work and unable check right now, if anybody finds the full fare rules, please update.
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Old Jan 9, 18, 6:14 am
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Excellent: thanks!

Fare rules & restrictions
Air France (AF) ZP8HU BUD to SIN

General notes
BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL FARES Z FOR ROUND TRIP FARES FOR ADULT

Category 4: Flight restrictions
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Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS AND TICKETING ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. NOTE - -------------------------------------------------- - FAREQUOTE GENERATES A LAST TICKETING DATE WHICH- - MAY DIFFER FROM THE DATE MENTIONED IN THE PNR. - - THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS. - --------------------------------------------------

Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM TURNAROUND MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER ARRIVAL AT TURNAROUND OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 6 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 1 MONTH AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

Category 8: Stopover restrictions
1 STOPOVER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION IN AMS/CDG AT EUR 75.00 EACH.

Category 9: Transfer restrictions
ORIGINATING EUROPE - IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL VIA AMS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AF FLIGHT ANY KL FLIGHT 1 TRANSFER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION LIMITED TO 1 AT EUR 16.00 AND 1 AT EUR 8.00 1 IN AMS OUTBOUND AT EUR 16.00 1 IN AMS INBOUND AT EUR 8.00 FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. AND - UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT FREE FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. ORIGINATING EUROPE - UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. NOTE - OR AS PER ROUTING REQUIREMENTS

Category 10: Combinability
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS WHICH CONSISTS OF NO MORE THAN 2 INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS AND THE OPEN SEGMENT AT ORIGIN MUST BE IN ONE COUNTRY. THE OPEN SEGMENT AT DESTINATION HAS NO RESTRICTIONS. A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS -WITHIN AREA 3 OR WITHIN ANY ONE COUNTRY IN EUROPE COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AF/KL WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC TARIFF. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AF/KL WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC TARIFF.

Category 12: Surcharges
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Category 14: Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 23JAN 18 AND ON/ BEFORE 10DEC 18.

Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 09JAN 18 AND ON/BEFORE 19JAN 18.

Category 15: Sales restrictions
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Category 16: Penalties
CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE EUR 300.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / DATE / FLIGHT MODIFICATION WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WILL APPLY //// // BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE // //// NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUANCE MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME PRIOR TO DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT. IF CHANGE DOES NOT OCCUR ON THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT OF THE JOURNEY NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE AND UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND A / MUST COMPY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED ----------------------- NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUANCE MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME PRIOR TO DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT. WHEN CHANGE OCCURS ON THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT OF THE JOURNEY ONLY OR ON THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT AND OTHER FARE COMPONENT OF THE JOURNEY NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING FARES IN EFFECT ON DATE OF REISSUE AND UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE - // BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE // // NO SHOW // IN THE EVENT OF NO SHOW - WHEN CHANGES ARE REQUESTED AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT - CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED AND CANCELLATION RULES SHALL APPLY AFTER DEPARTURE CHARGE EUR 300.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - ///// // AFTER OUTBOUND DEPARTURE // //// NEW RESERVATION / REISSUANCE AND PAYMENT OF THE PENALTY MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME ------------------------------- NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE AND UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED CANCELLATIONS BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE EUR 400.00 FOR CANCEL. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - ///// // BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE // ///// THE WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET IS REFUNDABLE UPON PAYMENT OF THE PENALTY AMOUNT CONTAINED IN THIS RULE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE - // BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPATURE // // NO SHOW // TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE WHEN PASSENGER CANCELS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT AFTER DEPARTURE TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL. NOTE - //// // AFTER OUTBOUND DEPARTURE // //// TICKET IS NON REFUNDABLE WHEN PASSENGER CANCELS AFTER OUTBOUND DEPARTURE MEANING THAT NO REFUNDS ARE ALLOWED ONCE THE FIRST COUPON OF THE PRICING UNIT IS USED. NOTE - ANY TIME CANCELLATIONS RULES APPLY BY FARE COMPONENT WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE TICKET WITH A NON REFUNDABLE TICKET PROVISIONS WILL APPLY AS FOLLOWS - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL BE REFUNDED UPON PAYMENT OF THE PENALTY AMOUNT IF APPLICABLE - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED

Category 17: HIP exceptions
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS. AND - NOTE - BETWEEN AND EXTRA APPLICABLE ROUTING MILEAGE ALLOWANCE FRANCE SOUTH AMER 2600 ON AF FRANCE MEXICO 2600 ON AF EUROPE SOUTH AMER 2600 VIA FRANCE ON AF EUROPE MEXICO 2600 VIA FRANCE ON AF EASTERN AFRICA SOUTH ATL 1400 VIA FRANCE ON AF WESTERN AFRICA SOUTH ATL 3800 VIA FRANCE ON AF WESTERN AFRICA MEXICO 1100 VIA FRANCE ON AF WESTERN AFRICA MID ATL 1300 VIA FRANCE ON AF AFRICA SOUTH ATL 2800 VIA FRANCE ON AF EXCLUDING EASTERN AFRICA WESTERN AFRICA SOUTH AFRICA THIS IS PERMITTED FOR TRAVEL ON AF ONLY.

Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NON ENDO/ - AND - FARE RSTR COULD APPLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

Category 19: Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH0. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH0. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT OF DISCOUNT. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 18 OR OLDER. NOTE - 1 ADULT PASSENGER AGED AT LEAST 18 YEARS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY A MAXIMUM OF 1 INFANTS -------------------------------------------- FRENCH REGULATIONS FORBID 2 INFANTS - LESS THAN 2 YEARS OLD - FROM BEING ACCOMPANIED BY JUST ONE ADULT PASSENGER . THE INFANT MUST BE HELD ON THE LAP OF THE PASSENGER DURING TAXI-TAKE OFF-LANDING AND TURBULENCES -------------------------------------------- THE AGE LIMITS REFERRED TO IN THIS RULE SHALL BE THOSE IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL. EXCEPTION - INFANTS WHO REACH THEIR 2ND BIRTHDAY DURING THEIR TRAVEL WILL BE REQUIRED TO OCCUPY A SEAT ON THE OUTBOUND AND INBOUND FLIGHT. THE CHILD FARE NEEDS TO BE APPLIED FOR THE WHOLE JOURNEY IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON DIRECT FLIGHTS UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE PLUS EUR 160.00. TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM0. NOTE - SERVICE CHARGE FOR UNACCOMPANIED CHILD ON DIRECT FLIGHTS OTHERWISE UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE PLUS EUR 200.00. TICKET DESIGNATOR - UM0. NOTE - SERVICE CHARGE FOR UNACCOMPANIED CHILD ON INDIRECT FLIGHTS

Category 23: Miscellaneous Fare Tags
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Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. AF/DL/KL Z- FARE FAMILY IS USED 5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT 2. SAME FARE ON 1ST FARE COMPONENT IS USED 3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 4. AF/DL/KL FARES ARE USED 5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 2. AF/DL/KL Z- FARE FAMILY IS USED 3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT 2. AF/DL/KL FARES ARE USED 3. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS. OR - BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL APPLY TO NEW TKT PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. NO CHANGE TO 2. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT. OR - AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY CHARGE EUR 300.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS - CATEGORY 19 DISCOUNTS APPLY AND REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 2. AF/DL/KL Z- FARE FAMILY IS USED 3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT OR - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET- 1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT 2. AF/DL/KL FARES ARE USED 3. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.

Category 50: Application
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Old Jan 9, 18, 6:48 am
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Any way to price these with 100% AF metal?
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Old Jan 9, 18, 6:58 am
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Where do you see it is not 100% AF metal?
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Old Jan 9, 18, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by bodory View Post
Where do you see it is not 100% AF metal?
BUD PVG is a combo of AF, KL & China Eastern
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Old Jan 9, 18, 7:51 am
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Guangzhou for $1472. All on AF metal with new BEST seats and good connections both ways.

https://goo.gl/flights/mwmP

PS please consider playing around for flights for 3 seconds before posting that you can't get it to work on this metal or that metal.
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Old Jan 9, 18, 10:18 pm
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BUD-CTU can be as low as 1100 EUR
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Old Jan 10, 18, 5:57 am
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This sounds like a fare that was kicking around about 3 years ago, where I was able to book HGK for about EUR1,100, routing through Xiamen (which was where the fare was valid for) and building in a stopover in Hong Kong for the time I needed to be there. The system still read the point of turnaround as being Xiamen.
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Old Jan 10, 18, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Concerto View Post
This sounds like a fare that was kicking around about 3 years ago, where I was able to book HGK for about EUR1,100
Yes, it's been available for ages from varying European cities (often BUD, WAW, OTP but in the past from MAD, BCN, ROM and others) with CTU, WUH, XMN being among the cheapest destinations. I've been in for several of them, but the fare became less interesting when they restricted the stopovers. It used to be a great cheap way to get to HKG via CTU, for example.
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