HU (Hainan): YVR-PEK J $2280USD ai
Nov 22, 2017, 11:26 am
#31
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
Nov 22, 2017, 11:40 am
#32
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: SEA, FLL, Martha’s Vineyard
Programs: AS MVPGold75K, Hilton Gold, IHG Platinum, Pan Am million-miler
Posts: 2,019
Nov 22, 2017, 10:21 pm
#33
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
USD $22xx in DEC
USD $25xx in Jan
Those are all published fares, cheaper bulk fares are out there.
Code:
AL FLGT BK DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
YTO
BJS HU 7976 R 06DEC 1610 R6MCA 06JUN 2P
YTO HU 7975 R 12DEC 1420 R6MCA 06JUN 2P
CAD 2435.00 06DEC17YTO HU BJS Q14.22 975.77HU YTO Q
14.22 975.77NUC1979.98END ROE1.229790
CAD 25.91CA XT CAD 400.00YR CAD 3.25RC CAD 25.00SQ CAD
CAD 15.34YQ 17.34CN
CAD 445.59XT
CAD 2921.84
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 30NOV 17
PERMITTED 13NOV 17 THROUGH 12DEC 17 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
FOR R6MCA FARES
PERMITTED 13SEP 17 THROUGH 31DEC 17 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
USD $25xx in Jan
Code:
AL FLGT BK DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
YTO
BJS HU 7976 R 11JAN 1610 R6M2CA 11JUL 2P
YTO HU 7975 R 18JAN 1420 R6M2CA 11JUL 2P
CAD 2835.00 11JAN18YTO HU BJS Q14.22 1138.40HU YTO Q
14.22 1138.40NUC2305.24END ROE1.229790
CAD 25.91CA XT CAD 400.00YR CAD 3.25RC CAD 25.00SQ CAD
CAD 15.34YQ 17.34CN
CAD 445.59XT
CAD 3321.84
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31DEC 17
PERMITTED 01JAN 18 THROUGH 10APR 18 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Those are all published fares, cheaper bulk fares are out there.
Last edited by gokeeper; Nov 22, 2017 at 10:27 pm
Nov 22, 2017, 10:58 pm
#34
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: SEA, FLL, Martha’s Vineyard
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I have been looking for January and February time, hence why I am coming up with $2600. I’m looking for after the new year to requalify for Alaska status.
Nov 26, 2017, 2:40 am
#35
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 181
At least one return flight departing in December from YYZ to PEK is cheaper than when I last looked.
Through Google Flights.
Depart YYZ Dec 3rd and return from PEK on Dec 6th for $2682 CAD; $2111 USD. Took me right through to the booking page at this price.
Then when I tried to obtain the same fare again through Google Flights, the fare reverted to $2922 CAD. I've seen other flights in early December at this price on HU.
It's not the first time I've seen Hainan play games when it comes to fare searching. I well remember they did the same for their big sale from Toronto a couple of years ago.
Before I go, If you haven't noticed, if you're a Fortune Wings Club Member, then you can get an 10% bonus points.
Details on their Canada website.
https://www.hainanairlines.com/CA/GB/earnbonuspoints
Nov 26, 2017, 7:40 am
#36
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
I haven't looked in here in the last few days.
At least one return flight departing in December from YYZ to PEK is cheaper than when I last looked Through Google Flights.
Depart YYZ Dec 3rd and return from PEK on Dec 6th for $2682 CAD; $2111 USD. Took me right through to the booking page at this price.
Then when I tried to obtain the same fare again through Google Flights, the fare reverted to $2922 CAD. I've seen other flights in early December at this price on HU.
https://www.hainanairlines.com/CA/GB/earnbonuspoints
At least one return flight departing in December from YYZ to PEK is cheaper than when I last looked Through Google Flights.
Depart YYZ Dec 3rd and return from PEK on Dec 6th for $2682 CAD; $2111 USD. Took me right through to the booking page at this price.
Then when I tried to obtain the same fare again through Google Flights, the fare reverted to $2922 CAD. I've seen other flights in early December at this price on HU.
https://www.hainanairlines.com/CA/GB/earnbonuspoints
Nov 30, 2017, 11:06 am
#37
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
The one thing you have to realize is the fareThe one thing you have to realize is the fare classes on HU are not really aligned and AS/HU agreement is not up to date based on the current setup that HU has. So there are some great loopholes allowing more credit then you really should get. AS used to have a separate R class earning for J and for F on HU. AS could not make different earnings on the same fare class work so they were extra nice and left R as a F fare even though its now discount J.
I have the info in the AS wiki from the beginning of time to watch fare buckets. For instance the lowest fare may book into a higher earning fare class than a higher level. Its only R on certain markets. Same kind of dealings with coach as well, for example many markets the cheapest fares are Q and earn 50% in AS while a more expensive fare on same flight is E and only earns 25%.
classes on HU are not really aligned. I have the info in the AS wiki from the beginning of time to watch fare buckets. For instance the lowest fare may book into a higher earning fare class than a higher level. Its only R on certain markets. same for coach as well, loses
I have the info in the AS wiki from the beginning of time to watch fare buckets. For instance the lowest fare may book into a higher earning fare class than a higher level. Its only R on certain markets. Same kind of dealings with coach as well, for example many markets the cheapest fares are Q and earn 50% in AS while a more expensive fare on same flight is E and only earns 25%.
classes on HU are not really aligned. I have the info in the AS wiki from the beginning of time to watch fare buckets. For instance the lowest fare may book into a higher earning fare class than a higher level. Its only R on certain markets. same for coach as well, loses
Dec 1, 2017, 4:31 am
#38
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I wonder if AS would make an exception and give you an elite qualifying bonus considering it is a higher fare than R?
Dec 1, 2017, 9:02 am
#39
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,323
They wont make an exception. see how hard it is just to get normal earnings on all the new flight numbers (or the new P fares on the new CKG routes). If anything it will lead to gutting of the R, it won't lead to additional earnings on I.
Dec 2, 2017, 7:48 am
#42
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 181
Departures from YEG or YXE on WS are showing Business Class (I) on the flight leaving YYC for PEK. Works on the Hainan Canada website.
Tried about three different dates using YWG as a departure city and no luck this morning. There may be other dates available for others who want to try.
Using Google Canada Flights for the search.
https://www.google.ca/flights/
Tried about three different dates using YWG as a departure city and no luck this morning. There may be other dates available for others who want to try.
Using Google Canada Flights for the search.
https://www.google.ca/flights/
Dec 2, 2017, 8:42 am
#43
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
IKRT1CAT, base fare CA$2000
ILRT1CAT, base fare CA$2000
Code:
PERMITTED 05OCT 17 THROUGH 15OCT 17 OR 01DEC 17 THROUGH 09DEC 17 OR 19APR 18 THROUGH 11JUN 18 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Code:
PERMITTED 15SEP 17 THROUGH 04OCT 17 OR 16OCT 17 THROUGH 30NOV 17 OR 25DEC 17 THROUGH 18APR 18 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Departures from YEG or YXE on WS are showing Business Class (I) on the flight leaving YYC for PEK. Works on the Hainan Canada website.
Tried about three different dates using YWG as a departure city and no luck this morning. There may be other dates available for others who want to try.
Using Google Canada Flights for the search.
https://www.google.ca/flights/
Tried about three different dates using YWG as a departure city and no luck this morning. There may be other dates available for others who want to try.
Using Google Canada Flights for the search.
https://www.google.ca/flights/
Dec 25, 2017, 5:09 pm
#44
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 181
I didn't want to open a new thread for this, but Hainan has a few Business Class (R) flights departing from Toronto (YYZ) to Hong Kong (HKG) in March for $2639 CAD, $2072 USD return.
Noticed them in Google Flights.
https://www.google.ca/flights/
Was able to obtain short connection times in PEK by adjusting the flight duration times above.
Noticed them in Google Flights.
https://www.google.ca/flights/
Was able to obtain short connection times in PEK by adjusting the flight duration times above.
Dec 25, 2017, 8:49 pm
#45
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
I didn't want to open a new thread for this, but Hainan has a few Business Class (R) flights departing from Toronto (YYZ) to Hong Kong (HKG) in March for $2639 CAD, $2072 USD return.
Noticed them in Google Flights.
https://www.google.ca/flights/
Was able to obtain short connection times in PEK by adjusting the flight duration times above.
Noticed them in Google Flights.
https://www.google.ca/flights/
Was able to obtain short connection times in PEK by adjusting the flight duration times above.
Hu: Yyz-pek/hkg ~$1980 usd