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klimike Nov 8, 2017 6:18 pm

MH J: TPE-LHR o/w (GBP 531) 2017 dates only
 
I was looking for some o/w J tickets out of Asia for next year and noticed this deal from MH for next few weeks (Nov & Dec dates only with limited seats). Not sure if it was posted before but I thought I would contribute my first premium deal post to One World alliance airline.

21k TWD for biz (fare class Z), 300TP on o/w, that's less than 1.8p per TP

https://goo.gl/flights/Hi6u

When I Travel The World Nov 8, 2017 6:29 pm

Nice fare and thanks for sharing.

minz56 Nov 8, 2017 6:30 pm

Great find ... very good price. And definitely only seems to work o/w.
Great positioning option to pick up one of those cheap QR flights ex ARN, OSL etc

NomadNick Nov 8, 2017 6:43 pm

Great fare, thanks for posting. Fare rules attached:

Code:

Fare rules & restrictions
Malaysia (MH) ZBTOW3TW TPE to LON
General notes
BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL FARES          Z
 APPLIES FOR ONE WAY FARES
FOR ADULT
Category 4: Flight restrictions
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        MH FLIGHTS 0001 THROUGH 3999.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
  RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 3 DAYS
  BEFORE DEPARTURE.
  TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER
  RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
        NOTE -
          NO OPEN RETURNS ALLOWED.TICKETS MUST BE COMPLETED
          WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR BY
          LAST SALES DATE
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
  2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
      1 IN BKI/KUL IN EACH DIRECTION.
        NOTE -
          STPC NOT APPLICABLE.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
  UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
    FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
    THE FARE COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
  SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT
  PERMITTED.
  END-ON-END PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED
  APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
  MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
Category 11: Blackout Dates
  TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 15FEB 18 THROUGH 18FEB 18.
Category 12: Surcharges
  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON MH AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
  1/AREA 2/AREA 3
    THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL.
  OTHERWISE
    A SURCHARGE OF 12 PERCENT OF THE FARE PER DIRECTION WILL
    BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
Category 14: Travel restrictions
  VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 15NOV 17 AND ON/
  BEFORE 31DEC 17.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
  RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE AND TICKETS ISSUED ON/AFTER
  08NOV 17 AND ON/BEFORE 30NOV 17.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
  SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
  TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF.
  OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
  OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
      TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF.
  OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
      TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF.
  OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
      TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF.
  OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
      TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF.
  OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
      TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF.
  OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
      TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON MH
Category 16: Penalties
  CHANGES
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE TWD 2500 FOR REISSUE.
        NOTE -
          DATE CHANGE FEE - TWD2500 PER CHANGE.
          ---------------------------------------------
          FOR CHANGE MADE AFTER 29JUL16 FARE DIFFERENCE
          BETWEEN PAID FARE AND PREVAILING MARKET FARE
          PLUS CHANGE FEE SHOULD BE COLLECTED
  CANCELLATIONS
    BEFORE DEPARTURE
      CHARGE TWD 2500 FOR CANCEL/REFUND.
        NOTE -
          FARE TYPES TO OTHER THAN MALAYSIA CHARGE TWD3500
          PER PASSENGER FOR CANCEL/REFUND
          --------------------------------------------------
          FEE MAY BE WAIVED IN THE CIRCUMSTANCE OF
          - DEATH OF PSGR/ IMMEDIATE FAMILY
          A VALID DEATH CERTIFICATE IS REQUIRED.
    AFTER DEPARTURE
      TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/REFUND.
    ANY TIME
      CHARGE TWD 1600 FOR NO-SHOW.
Category 17: HIP exceptions
  THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
  STOPOVERS.
Category 18: Endorsements
  THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
  NONEND MHBUSINESS - AND - PENALTY APPLIES - IN THE
  ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 19: Discounts
  ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
        TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
        THE FARE.
            TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
  OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
        THE FARE.
            TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
        NOTE -
          UNACCOMPANIED MINOR TRAVEL NOT PERMITTED
Category 23: Miscellaneous Fare Tags
  THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE HIGH OR THE LOW FARE
  WHEN CALCULATING A DIFFERENTIAL. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE
  USED AS THE THROUGH FARE WHEN PRICING A FARE COMPONENT
  WITH A DIFFERENTIAL.
Category 50: Application
2017 YES CAMPAIGN BSCL EX TPE
 APPLICATION
  CLASS OF SERVICE
    THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
  TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
    THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
    FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
    ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW/SINGLE OPEN-
    JAW/DOUBLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
  ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
  FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
  THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
  AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
  CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT


NomadNick Nov 8, 2017 6:58 pm

Something cool I just noticed is that you can set it up as a multi-city fare if you prefer to use the KUL-LHR in 2018, meaning travel only needs to START before EOY. So you could fly just the TPE-KUL leg in 2017 and then utilize the LHR leg any time in 2018 that you might need it. And the KUL-LHR can be booked in the new A350 that starts flying to LHR in January. Seems a bit nicer than the A380.

The GF link won't populate the search so you have to re-enter on the MH site, but it does take it all the way to the payment screen with the same price. Availability seems open on just about any day in 2018. Heck of a deal, thanks OP!

NomadNick Nov 8, 2017 7:11 pm

Welp, scratch all that, its now pricing about 4 times the original amount. Seems to still be some availability on Expedia links for the 2017 flights though.

minz56 Nov 8, 2017 7:38 pm


Originally Posted by NomadNick (Post 29037968)
Welp, scratch all that, its now pricing about 4 times the original amount. Seems to still be some availability on Expedia links for the 2017 flights though.

I was just able to price one TPE/KUL on 10 Dec and KUL/LHR on 23 May at TWD21,564 (US$715) on the MH site so what NomadNick is suggesting still seems possible.

Great option!

Unknown Nov 8, 2017 7:53 pm

Very interesting, great find!

NomadNick Nov 8, 2017 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by minz56 (Post 29038031)
I was just able to price one TPE/KUL on 10 Dec and KUL/LHR on 23 May at TWD21,564 (US$715) on the MH site so what NomadNick is suggesting still seems possible.

Great option!

Ah very cool! Must have just repriced on some of the dates I was looking at. Sorry for any confusion.

nldogbert Nov 9, 2017 12:01 am

Thanks OP, nice fare. I happened to be going to TPE in Dec, however, sadly availability for Z is scarce....and that needs to be available for the TPE-KUL sector if not everything gets pushed into the higher classes....
Am still considering if I should pull the trigger on this. Can anyone let me know if
- after flying the 1st leg, can I change the date for KUL-LHR without a reprice (the fare rules does not address this - only before departure)
- do you think more Z will be released on other dates - although I am seeing that the Biz cabin on other dates seems to be filling up...only J available.

Thanks in advance..
Cheers!

minz56 Nov 9, 2017 12:16 am


Originally Posted by nldogbert (Post 29038694)
Thanks OP, nice fare. I happened to be going to TPE in Dec, however, sadly availability for Z is scarce....and that needs to be available for the TPE-KUL sector if not everything gets pushed into the higher classes....
Am still considering if I should pull the trigger on this. Can anyone let me know if
- after flying the 1st leg, can I change the date for KUL-LHR without a reprice (the fare rules does not address this - only before departure)
- do you think more Z will be released on other dates - although I am seeing that the Biz cabin on other dates seems to be filling up...only J available.

Thanks in advance..
Cheers!

On the MH site the FARE CONDITIONS section states (highlighting mine):

ADULT
Taipei - London
Change conditions
Penalty may apply
Prior to Departure of first flight
Changes*: Not applicable (See reissue conditions)
Reissue: Allowed with restrictions
Penalty fee for ticket reissue between: 2500 TWD / 2500 TWD (at today exchange rates 2500 TWD / 2500 TWD)
Maximum Reissue penalty fee for entire ticket: 2500 TWD
Failure to show at first flight
Changes*: Not applicable (See reissue conditions)
Reissue: Not allowed
After departure of first flight
Changes*: Not applicable (See reissue conditions)
Reissue: Allowed with restrictions
Penalty fee for ticket reissue between: 2500 TWD / 2500 TWD (at today exchange rates 2500 TWD / 2500 TWD)
Maximum Reissue penalty fee for entire ticket: 2500 TWD

Failure to show at subsequent flight(s)
Changes*: Not applicable (See reissue conditions)
Reissue: Not allowed

However when you go into the full rules under PURCHASE CONDITIONS:

CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE TWD 2500 FOR REISSUE.
NOTE -
DATE CHANGE FEE - TWD2500 PER CHANGE.
---------------------------------------------
FOR CHANGE MADE AFTER 29JUL16 FARE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN PAID FARE AND PREVAILING MARKET FARE
PLUS CHANGE FEE SHOULD BE COLLECTED

The paragraph with 29JUL16 looks like it has been carried over from an older fare and probably doen't apply here, but .....

nldogbert Nov 9, 2017 1:07 am


Originally Posted by minz56 (Post 29038714)
On the MH site the FARE CONDITIONS section states (highlighting mine):

CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE TWD 2500 FOR REISSUE.
NOTE -
DATE CHANGE FEE - TWD2500 PER CHANGE.
---------------------------------------------
FOR CHANGE MADE AFTER 29JUL16 FARE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN PAID FARE AND PREVAILING MARKET FARE
PLUS CHANGE FEE SHOULD BE COLLECTED

The paragraph with 29JUL16 looks like it has been carried over from an older fare and probably doen't apply here, but .....

That's the source of my confusion....:D So any confirmation will be nice on what they mean here.

Cheers!

christep Nov 9, 2017 3:22 am

Unless I'm misreading the rules TPE-BKI-KUL-LHR should also be valid for a few extra points/miles.

nldogbert Nov 9, 2017 3:35 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 29039074)
Unless I'm misreading the rules TPE-BKI-KUL-LHR should also be valid for a few extra points/miles.

Yes, but again availability is very scarce on this.. :( and with only < 2 months before this fare ends, this makes it very difficult....

Would be nice if they extend this fare into 2018..

minz56 Nov 9, 2017 5:22 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 29039074)
Unless I'm misreading the rules TPE-BKI-KUL-LHR should also be valid for a few extra points/miles.

Yes, but from what I understand you can only stop in either BKI or KUL, not both


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