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sluneckov Sep 1, 2017 4:01 am
BA First LHR-HKG £2,076
 
A few dates available in February.
Bookable via expedia, example:

https://www.expedia.co.uk/Details?ac...otelbanneronly

osotoc Sep 1, 2017 4:11 am
Nice! Thanks.

The_Bouncer Sep 1, 2017 4:21 am
Is wheretocredit.com correct in saying this credits 450% to AS? I.e. about 54k rdm? If so, the miles earned are worth about about 40% of the fare.

AHO Sep 1, 2017 4:53 am
It's actually a fare of London-Beijing R/T with free stopover in Hong Kong.

Fare basis: AOJ8SUK0
Base fare: 1.498 GBP excl. taxes.
Advance puchase: 28 days
Min/Max stay: SU / 12 months
Buy latest: 2017-SEP-26
Valid for departure:
  • mellan 2017-DEC-01 och 2018-FEB-15
  • mellan 2018-FEB-21 och 2018-FEB-28
Stopover: up to 2 free stopovers are permitted
HIP Check: HIP Check does not apply for stopovers

Code:
LON-BJS      CXR-BA      TUE 30JAN18                    USD
THE FOLLOWING CARRIERS ALSO PUBLISH FARES LON-BJS:
8U 9W A3 AA AB AC AF AM AY AZ BD BR CA CI CX CZ EI EK ET EW EY
FV GA GF GS H1 HG HU HX HY IB IT J2 JD JL KC KE KL KQ KU LH LN
LO LT LX LY MA MF MH MK MS MU NH NW NZ OK OS OU OZ PK PR PS QF
QR RJ RO SA SK SN SQ SU T5 TG TK TP UA UL UN VN VS VV WY YY ZH
ADDITIONAL CARRIERS PARTICIPATE IN YY FARES
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED
GBP CONVERTED TO USD USING BSR 1 GBP - 1.29229977 USD         
BA    LONBJS.EH      30JAN18          MPM  7468
    V FARE BASIS    BK    FARE  TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1  AOJ8SUK0      A‡R  2194.00    ----    28/3 SU/12M EH01
  2  AOJ8SUK0      A‡R  2194.00    ----    28/3 SU/12M EH01
  3A  AOJ8SUK0      A‡R  2194.00    ----    28/3 SU/12M EH01
 
*** YY REQUESTED FARES NOT PERMITTED LON-BJS ON BA ***
 
EH01*  /WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/ PUBLISHED RTG 5
      1. LON-BJS
      2. LON-CTU-CA/CZ-BJS
      3. LON-HKG-CX/HX/KA-BJS
      4. LON-SHA-CA/HU/MU-BJS

Fare example:
http://www.businessclass.se/forum/at...-ba-png.66968/

AHO Sep 1, 2017 5:41 am
FYI, fare of London-Hong Kong R/T.
Code:
    V FARE BASIS    BK    FARE  TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1A  AOJ8SUK0      A‡R  3485.00    ----    28/3 SU/12M EH01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                AUTO PRICE-YES             
FROM-LON TO-HKG    CXR-BA    TVL-30JAN18  RULE-3328 IPREUAS/4
FARE BASIS-AOJ8SUK0          SPECIAL FARE  DIS-E  VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-FX      RT-FIRST CLASS EXCURSION
GBP  2697.00  0005  E01SEP17 D-INFINITY  FC-AOJ8SUK0  FN-2H 
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 31AUG17/1019  EXPIRES INFINITY
 
PUBLISHED RTG LON-HKG/BA5  /TAR-EURG    EF-01SEP17 DIS-INDEF
 
/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/
MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT
 1. LON-SIN-KA/CX/3K-HKG
 2. LON-BKK-UL/RJ/HX/CX/BA-HKG
 3. LON-KUL-MH/CX/BA-HKG
 4. LON-BJS-KA/HX/CX-HKG
 5. LON-SHA-MU/KA/HX/CX-HKG
 6. LON-HKG
2.697 GBP excl. taxes.

Zocky Sep 1, 2017 5:47 am
Some other destinations are possible. Tried to figure out MEX with the Transcon on AA. Should be worth for 920 TP.


http://up.picr.de/30240340co.jpg

AHO Sep 1, 2017 5:56 am
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Originally Posted by Zocky (Post 28763830)
Some other destinations are possible. Tried to figure out MEX with the Transcon on AA. Should be worth for 920 TP.


http://up.picr.de/30240340co.jpg
More prices in First class can be found here.

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...t=SEPPLOFAVLH1

p78 Sep 1, 2017 6:24 am
hm
so routing to PEK like this
LHR-PEK-HKG-LHR
or
LHR-HKG-PEK-LHR
and you can get free 72h visa (it should be extended to 144h in PEK by the end of 2017)

PIKnic Sep 1, 2017 8:09 am
EDI-LHR-HKG-PEK or reverse ?
 
For this route we are looking to stay in HKG for 10 days and use PEK to transit. Is there any benefit as to which way we go ?
I thought it might be better to fly straight back on A380 and go via PEK !

AHO Sep 1, 2017 8:41 am
Originally Posted by PIKnic (Post 28764238)
For this route we are looking to stay in HKG for 10 days and use PEK to transit. Is there any benefit as to which way we go ?
I thought it might be better to fly straight back on A380 and go via PEK !
If you fly London-Hong Kong-Beijing-London, you cannot connect in Beijing same day because the first Cathay Dragon flight from Hong Kong arrives to Beijing late so that it does not qualify MCT.

But if you fly London-Beijing-Hong Kong-London, you can connect in Beijing same day.

zebes Sep 1, 2017 8:53 am
If crediting to AS, be wary, as you might not get credit for the HKG-PEK route on Cathay Dragon.

kirker Sep 1, 2017 9:16 am
Originally Posted by p78 (Post 28763922)
hm
so routing to PEK like this
LHR-PEK-HKG-LHR
or
LHR-HKG-PEK-LHR
and you can get free 72h visa (it should be extended to 144h in PEK by the end of 2017)
Just FYI, China now offers 10-year tourist visas (IIRC for about the same a one-year visa used to cost). Or at least they do for US citizens, though I don't see why UK citizens wouldn't also be included.

ps9a Sep 1, 2017 9:28 am
Great fare, OP! LHR-SFO rt under $3k.

Rowyourboat Sep 1, 2017 9:55 am
Looks like there's a pretty broad sale. If you sign-in to BA EC and have your location as UK, there's a lot of cheap F fares.

Quick glance for NA:
ATL from 1969 gbp
BOS from 1898 gbp
LAS from 2029 gbp
NYC from 1853 gbp
YYZ from 1696 gbp

All ex-LON. I didn't check the dates but this seems to come up annually. LON-SFO gets you ~60K RDM on Alaska w/ MVP 75K bonus, or around 45K w/o it.

zoqfotpik Sep 1, 2017 10:35 am
Certain nationalities are eligible for transit in China without visa aka TWOV. In PEK, you are allowed up to 72 hours as long as your itinerary takes you to a "third country". HKG is treated as a separate country. In this case, you can do LHR-HKG-PEK-LHR or LHR-PEK-HKG-LHR, but not LHR-PEK-HKG-PEK-LHR without a visa.

adrianlondon Sep 1, 2017 11:31 am
Originally Posted by zoqfotpik (Post 28764842)
Certain nationalities are eligible for transit in China without visa aka TWOV. In PEK, you are allowed up to 72 hours as long as your itinerary takes you to a "third country". HKG is treated as a separate country. In this case, you can do LHR-HKG-PEK-LHR or LHR-PEK-HKG-LHR, but not LHR-PEK-HKG-PEK-LHR without a visa.
Can I ask why the latter isn't valid? Surely it's a return flight ... LHR-PEK-HKG (valid for 72-hr visa) and then HKG-PEK-LHR (valid for 72-hr visa).

zoqfotpik Sep 1, 2017 11:41 am
Originally Posted by adrianlondon (Post 28765059)
Can I ask why the latter isn't valid? Surely it's a return flight ... LHR-PEK-HKG (valid for 72-hr visa) and then HKG-PEK-LHR (valid for 72-hr visa).
I stand corrected, I think you are right. I suggest going to China TWOV thread for more information: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chin...er-thread.html

AHO Sep 1, 2017 12:19 pm
Originally Posted by zoqfotpik (Post 28764842)
but not LHR-PEK-HKG-PEK-LHR without a visa.
But this fare (London-Beijing R/T) does not allow this routing. If you fly like as you mentioned, it will be prices as London-Hong Kong R/T.

cysyuen Sep 1, 2017 12:49 pm
I have no issues staying in HK both outbound and inbound:

https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...BA28;sc=f;eo=e

AHO Sep 1, 2017 12:59 pm
Originally Posted by cysyuen (Post 28765404)
I have no issues staying in HK both outbound and inbound:

https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...BA28;sc=f;eo=e
Of course no problem.
The fare allows up to 2 free stopovers in Area 3 (Asia & Oceania).

meowycrystal Sep 1, 2017 5:36 pm
Originally Posted by cysyuen (Post 28765404)
I have no issues staying in HK both outbound and inbound:

https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...BA28;sc=f;eo=e
Is there any reason this is £90 more expensive in this itinerary? £2166 vs £2076
I thought you allowed to have free stopover in HKG.

jj12345 Sep 1, 2017 8:21 pm
Does anyone know if these fares are open to DEL? I'm not sure what the regular prices for that route is generally.

rbAA Sep 1, 2017 11:32 pm
Originally Posted by cysyuen (Post 28765404)
I have no issues staying in HK both outbound and inbound:

https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...BA28;sc=f;eo=e
Actually, would prefer it to having to stay in PEK.

AHO Sep 2, 2017 12:23 am
Originally Posted by meowycrystal (Post 28766406)
Is there any reason this is £90 more expensive in this itinerary? £2166 vs £2076
I thought you allowed to have free stopover in HKG.
Stopover itself is free of charge if you apply this fare, but ot doesn't mean you can avoid paying taxes.
When you transit or depart from Hong Kong, you have to pay certain amount of taxes.


https://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/...rture-tax.html
https://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/...ction-fee.html

meowycrystal Sep 2, 2017 7:34 am
Originally Posted by AHO (Post 28767211)
Stopover itself is free of charge if you apply this fare, but ot doesn't mean you can avoid paying taxes.
When you transit or depart from Hong Kong, you have to pay certain amount of taxes.


https://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/...rture-tax.html
https://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/...ction-fee.html
clear explanation! Thanks :)

AHO Sep 2, 2017 7:41 am
Originally Posted by jj12345 (Post 28766819)
Does anyone know if these fares are open to DEL? I'm not sure what the regular prices for that route is generally.
BA's website shows that they have First class deal to Delhi too.

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...t=SEPPLOFAVLH1
Originally Posted by British Airways
Mumbai
from £2197 return

New Delhi
from £2027 return

orbitmic Sep 3, 2017 12:49 am
Some good fares indeed!

AHO Sep 5, 2017 3:17 am
Originally Posted by kirker (Post 28764506)
Just FYI, China now offers 10-year tourist visas (IIRC for about the same a one-year visa used to cost). Or at least they do for US citizens, though I don't see why UK citizens wouldn't also be included.
10-year multiple entry Chinese visa is only for US citizens.
1. In accordance with a 2014 China-U.S. visa arrangement, U.S. citizens may be eligible for 10-year multiple entry visa. The remaining validity of the U.S. passport must be over 12 months.
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/hrsq/

Ldnn1 Sep 5, 2017 5:15 am
Originally Posted by AHO (Post 28777862)
10-year multiple entry Chinese visa is only for US citizens.


http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/hrsq/
The standard China visa for UK citizens these days is 2 year multiple entry. It's bl**dy expensive, by the way.

Ausriver Sep 5, 2017 5:44 am
Great fare for F.


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