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Aug 31, 2017, 10:41 am

#61

greycap7

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zse

Try adding AF+ into routing codes on ITA to enforce Air Frnace. If nothing found it means that you need to try different dates.

Let me PM you.

Aug 31, 2017, 10:53 am

#62

dimitriyremerov

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keitherson

Is SVO considered Europe for 250%?

Where did you guys get this 250%? Couldn't find it anywhere.

Aug 31, 2017, 10:58 am

#63

zoqfotpik

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dimitriyremerov

Where did you guys get this 250%? Couldn't find it anywhere.

I saw it here: https://www.flyingblue.com/earn-and-...ir-france.html

Aug 31, 2017, 10:58 am

#64

AHO

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Location: Sweden

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dimitriyremerov

Where did you guys get this 250%? Couldn't find it anywhere.

See the section "European flights".
https://www.flyingblue.com/earn-and-...ir-france.html

Aug 31, 2017, 11:09 am

#65

dimitriyremerov

Join Date: Dec 2011

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Quote:

Originally Posted by greycap7

Can anyone help me out? I'm trying to book with Ita and powertools, but I keep getting Aeroflot flights..

Trust me, Aeroflot flights is what you want. Go for them if you possibly can. Service in Business class is way much better than one in Air France.
They also have a proper hard product (similar to F in domestic US) unlike their AF colleagues.

Aug 31, 2017, 11:11 am

#66

dimitriyremerov

Join Date: Dec 2011

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AHO

See the section "European flights".
https://www.flyingblue.com/earn-and-...ir-france.html

Wondering what MOW-IKT would be. It's neither European, nor International, nor Caribbean / Indian Ocean and nor Domestic within France.

Aug 31, 2017, 11:26 am

#67

nk15

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AF class Z and D earn 150% MQMs with Delta, someone could do the status challenge and earn Platinum status with Delta with this (need 18,750 MQMs in 3 months).

Aug 31, 2017, 11:43 am

#68

AHO

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Location: Sweden

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dimitriyremerov

Wondering what MOW-IKT would be. It's neither European, nor International, nor Caribbean / Indian Ocean and nor Domestic within France.

Fuel surcharge-wise, it's intra-Europe. No fuel surcharge on Moscow-Irkutsk with AF flight number.

For your information, Air France does not charge Fuel surcharge on intra-European AF flights.

Aug 31, 2017, 11:52 am

#69

Mekkelsa

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Looks interesting. Does anyone know whether the tickets are changeable or refundable?

It says in ITA:

This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.

But in the fare rules it says:
ANYTIME CHANGES AND CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED. ----------------------- REISSUE IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE FAMILY OF FLEX AND BUSINESS FARES

Aug 31, 2017, 11:58 am

#70

AHO

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mekkelsa

Looks interesting. Does anyone know whether the tickets are changeable or refundable?

It says in ITA:

This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.

But in the fare rules it says:
ANYTIME CHANGES AND CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED. ----------------------- REISSUE IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE FAMILY OF FLEX AND BUSINESS FARES

If you are booked in Z class, rebooking fee is 70 EUR each time.
Z class fare is non-refundable.

Code:

PENALTIES

   CHANGES
   
     BEFORE DEPARTURE
       CHARGE EUR 70.00.
       CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          A CHANGE IS A ROUTING / DATE / FLIGHT MODIFICATION
          WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS BEING CHANGED
          THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
          WILL APPLY
                                ////
                    // BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE //
                                ////
          NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUANCE MUST BE MADE AT THE
          SAME TIME PRIOR TO DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY
          SCHEDULED FLIGHT. IF CHANGE DOES NOT OCCUR ON THE
          FIRST FARE COMPONENT OF THE JOURNEY NEW FARE
          WILL BE RECALCULATED USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
          PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE AND UNDER FOLLOWING
          CONDITIONS
           - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE
             LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
             A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                 ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE
             B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                 NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
           - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE
             MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
             A / MUST COMPY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                 NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
                        -----------------------
          REISSUE IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE FAMILY OF
          STANDARD FARES AND WITH BUSINESS FARES
                        -----------------------
          NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUANCE MUST BE MADE AT THE
          SAME TIME PRIOR TO DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY
          SCHEDULED FLIGHT. WHEN CHANGE OCCURS ON THE FIRST
          FARE COMPONENT OF THE JOURNEY ONLY OR ON THE
          FIRST FARE COMPONENT AND OTHER FARE COMPONENT OF
          THE JOURNEY NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING
          FARES IN EFFECT ON DATE OF REISSUE AND UNDER
          FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
           - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE
             LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
             A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                 ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE
             B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                 NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
           - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE
             MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
             A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                 NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
                       -----------------------
          REISSUE IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE FAMILY OF
          STANDARD FARES AND WITH BUSINESS FARES
   
   CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                 //  BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE  //
                          //  NO SHOW  //
          IN THE EVENT OF NO SHOW - WHEN CHANGES ARE
          REQUESTED AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY
          SCHEDULED FLIGHT -  CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED AND
          CANCELLATION RULES SHALL APPLY
   
   AFTER DEPARTURE
       CHARGE EUR 70.00.
       CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          /////
                    // AFTER OUTBOUND DEPARTURE //
                                ////
          NEW RESERVATION / REISSUANCE AND PAYMENT
          OF THE PENALTY MUST BE MADE AT THE SAME TIME
                             -------------------------------
            NEW FARE WILL BE RECALCULATED USING
          FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE
          AND UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
           - IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE
             LOWER OR EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
             A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                 ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE
             B / OR MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
                 NEW FARE BEING APPLIED
           - IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE
             MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
          UNDER FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
          A / MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW
              FARE BEING APPLIED
                    ------------------------
          REISSUE IS PERMITTED WITHIN THE FAMILY OF
          STANDARD FARES AND WITH BUSINESS FARES
   
   CANCELLATIONS
   
     ANY TIME
       TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL.
   
   ANY TIME
       TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.
   
   
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          BEFORE DEPARTURE
          CANCELLATIONS RULES APPLY BY FARE COMPONENT
          WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE TICKET WITH A
          NON REFUNDABLE TICKET PROVISIONS WILL APPLY
          AS FOLLOWS
             - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
               COMPONENT WILL BE REFUNDED UPON PAYMENT
               OF THE PENALTY AMOUNT IF APPLICABLE
             - THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON REFUNDABLE
               FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
          AFTER DEPARTURE
             -THE REFUND GIVEN WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE
          BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE APPLICABLE FARE
          FLOWN
          --------------------------------------------------
          FOR NON REFUNDABLE TICKETS THE YQ/YR CARRIER
          IMPOSED SURCHARGE WILL NOT BE REFUNDED

Aug 31, 2017, 11:59 am

#71

ristasm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nk15

AF class Z and D earn 150% MQMs with Delta, someone could do the status challenge and earn Platinum status with Delta with this (need 18,750 MQMs in 3 months).

Don't you need to fly on Delta operated flights in order to extend the validity of the status match?

Aug 31, 2017, 12:40 pm

#72

nk15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ristasm

Don't you need to fly on Delta operated flights in order to extend the validity of the status match?

From my reading of it, no. It says "Only MQMs and MQSs earned through travel on Delta, Delta Connection, and SkyMiles Partner Airlines will count towards the challenge". See full details below:

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...challenge.html

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en.../airlines.html

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...ir-france.html

Aug 31, 2017, 1:15 pm

#73

ristasm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nk15

wow didn't know that, i could do it easily then but the question is what to do with the bunch of useless skymiles

i guess the status until 2019 is worth them...

Aug 31, 2017, 1:30 pm

#74

nk15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ristasm

wow didn't know that, i could do it easily then but the question is what to do with the bunch of useless skymiles

i guess the status until 2019 is worth them...

Skypesos are generally useless but you will find somewhere to use them, and they never expire, and occasionally may prove very handy. They also come with no redeposit fee for award flights for Platinums, which is epic...In other words, you can be booking and canceling award flights all the time, use them as back up flights, etc...Full benefits here...I am tempted myself as I am currently out of status with ST...
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-benefits.html

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Last edited by nk15; Aug 31, 2017 at 1:41 pm

Aug 31, 2017, 2:15 pm

#75

ristasm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nk15

nice, thanks for the heads up, flexible tickets always come useful ^