QR: TUN-JNB-NYC in J OJ $1804
Aug 23, 2017, 11:17 am
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Aug 23, 2017, 11:21 am
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Aug 23, 2017, 11:56 am
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QR I and R yields 1.5x EQM. So ~25k o/w. He is stating RT, so yes, double that. Note the price is also double. *some* of these appear to work both ways. Did a quick search and could not find one starting in the US for the same price. SOF seems to work both ways. More searching needed . . .
Aug 23, 2017, 12:44 pm
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QR I and R yields 1.5x EQM. So ~25k o/w. He is stating RT, so yes, double that. Note the price is also double. *some* of these appear to work both ways. Did a quick search and could not find one starting in the US for the same price. SOF seems to work both ways. More searching needed . . .
TXL-JNB-TUN $1,642
TUN-JNB-TXL $1,524
This fare is actually pretty flexible on OJ destinations. TUN-DOH-JNB-DOH-XXX. Here's some sample pricing for various combinations. The cities listed below replace XXX as the final destination.
Asia
HKG $1,480
PEK $1,463
PVG $1,434
HGH $1,334
Europe
BEG $1,597
TXL $1,621
BRU $1,752
Aug 23, 2017, 11:15 pm
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This is just an interesting twist on two return fares. It seems that when you combine a one way TUN-JNB with a JNB-XXX where XXX is pretty much anywhere outside of Africa, it allows to use half the price of the return TUN-JNB plus half the price of the JNB-XXX return.
It's interesting if you do want to start in TUN and end in XXX and stop in JNB.
If your interest is purely AA EQM/EQD per actual dollars as it seems many people are looking for, then you may be able to reach better numbers with just TUN-JNB return or JNB-XXX return.
It's interesting if you do want to start in TUN and end in XXX and stop in JNB.
If your interest is purely AA EQM/EQD per actual dollars as it seems many people are looking for, then you may be able to reach better numbers with just TUN-JNB return or JNB-XXX return.
Aug 24, 2017, 2:05 am
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Code:
PERMITTED COMBINATIONS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS/END-ON-END
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
OPEN JAWS NOTE -
MOST RESTRICTIVE RULE PER FARE COMPONENT APPLY
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER QR IN ANY
RULE AND TARIFF.
Aug 24, 2017, 9:39 am
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Yes, this is normal practice, is it not?
Code:
PERMITTED COMBINATIONS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS/END-ON-END
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
OPEN JAWS NOTE -
MOST RESTRICTIVE RULE PER FARE COMPONENT APPLY
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER QR IN ANY
RULE AND TARIFF.
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT."
TUN-DFW is longer than the shortest flown fare component which in this case is TUN-JNB.
Aug 24, 2017, 1:28 pm
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Aug 25, 2017, 12:02 am
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It is normal to combine half fares if both fares go between the same IATA zones. In this case, it is clear that the end point is not in the same zone as TUN, hence my surprise. Furthermore it makes an open jaw between TUN and DFW for example. That open jaw seems to violate the rule "MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT."
TUN-DFW is longer than the shortest flown fare component which in this case is TUN-JNB.
MILEAGE OF THE SHORTEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT."
TUN-DFW is longer than the shortest flown fare component which in this case is TUN-JNB.
Distance of the OJ DFW-TUN is 5729 miles, so it would be within the fare rules.
This is also the reason why the OJ to LAX works with CPT as the intermediary point but not JNB.
Aug 25, 2017, 5:21 am
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What you are saying rings a bell, but I have been unable to find any reference to it in the Ticketing Handbook or anywhere else.Indeed.
Aug 25, 2017, 11:56 am
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Didn't IATA abolish this rule back in 2005 or something? What you are saying rings a bell, but I have been unable to find any reference to it in the Ticketing Handbook or anywhere else.
The length of a component is measured by summing the distances between each ticketed point in the component, not the shortest distance from one end of the component to the other.
What you are saying rings a bell, but I have been unable to find any reference to it in the Ticketing Handbook or anywhere else.The length of a component is measured by summing the distances between each ticketed point in the component, not the shortest distance from one end of the component to the other.