Cz bkk-sfo $1800 or pvg-wuh-sfo $1367 rt (i+j)
Oct 14, 2016, 3:43 am
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Cz bkk-sfo $1800 or pvg-wuh-sfo $1367 rt (i+j)
Was looking at the MU PEK-ORD business fare deal, which seems to have disappeared, and came across the CZ version PVG-WUH-SFO. Seems available in Nov, then again in Feb and Mar next year, mostly Tuesdays and Saturdays for $1367. I fare on the 787 between WUH-SFO though seems their seat is not extremely well liked, much less very special. J for the (China) domestic leg, but then it's a domestic 737 or A321 generally, depending on the schedule.
Still, a nice price to SFO, and combine it with BKK-CAN-SHA in I+J for $427 more, making BKK-SFO for a total of just under $1800. And stopover in PVG since it's basical two fares. Not sure how TWOV would work for those of you who don't collect China visas, as you enter China at CAN which has 72 hour TWOV rather than PVG's 144 hour, though seems otherwise a good deal. The CAN-SHA is a 777, and should be the 77W with lie-flats. I'll see as I ticketed it for next week-skipping the SFO part as I have a CX J award BKK-LAX in a couple weeks. But, it was a thought.
Still, a nice price to SFO, and combine it with BKK-CAN-SHA in I+J for $427 more, making BKK-SFO for a total of just under $1800. And stopover in PVG since it's basical two fares. Not sure how TWOV would work for those of you who don't collect China visas, as you enter China at CAN which has 72 hour TWOV rather than PVG's 144 hour, though seems otherwise a good deal. The CAN-SHA is a 777, and should be the 77W with lie-flats. I'll see as I ticketed it for next week-skipping the SFO part as I have a CX J award BKK-LAX in a couple weeks. But, it was a thought.
Oct 14, 2016, 6:46 am
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TWOV for China only applies to international to international transit to a third country. You can only touch one transit point in China. Your itinerary BKK-CAN-SHA//PVG-WUH-SFO doesn't qualify.
Oct 14, 2016, 6:53 am
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Always good to know, though I feel it's just easier to get the visa. 10 years to amortize the cost over and plenty of great deals from and thru China makes it a no brainer.
Oct 14, 2016, 10:21 am
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PVG-SFO is a routing fare, have a look at the table, permitted routings include via JFK and picking up DL flatbed on JFK-SFO. Also routing thru YVR permitted.
And since it is a routing fare, no HIP check on stopovers. This is gem w exception of some pretty significant date restrictions.
Stopover restrictions:
Date restrictions:
Routings permitted:
And since it is a routing fare, no HIP check on stopovers. This is gem w exception of some pretty significant date restrictions.
Stopover restrictions:
Code:
4 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
2 IN CAN/LAX OUTBOUND
2 IN YVR/NYC OUTBOUND
2 IN CAN/LAX INBOUND
2 IN YVR/NYC INBOUND
2 IN YTO/SFO IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
AT USD 100.00 EACH.
AND - UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING
UNIT
IN CONTIGUOUS U.S.A. WHEN NOT VIA SAME
CARRIER.
AND - UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
AT USD 250.00 EACH
IN CONTIGUOUS U.S.A. WHEN VIA SAME CARRIER.
Code:
OUTBOUND -
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 26DEC16 THROUGH 15JAN17 OR
21JAN17 THROUGH 28JAN17.
INBOUND -
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 03OCT16 THROUGH 16OCT16 OR
12DEC16 THROUGH 24DEC16 OR 02FEB17 THROUGH 12FEB17
OR 24MAY17 THROUGH 27JUN17.
Code:
DOM ROUTE VALIDATION APPLIES WITHIN ORIG/DEST COUNTRIES MAP CONSTRUCTED LEFT TO RIGHT AND RIGHT TO LEFT 1. SHA-CZ-CAN-CZ-WUH-CZ-SFO 2. SHA-CZ-CAN-CZ-LAX-DL/CZ-SFO 3. SHA-CZ-CAN-CZ-NYC-DL/CZ-SFO 4. SHA-CZ-CAN-CZ-LAX-VX/CZ-SFO 5. SHA-CZ-CAN-CZ-NYC-VX/CZ-SFO 6. SHA-CZ-CAN-CZ-YVR-WS/CZ-SFO 7. SHA-CZ-CAN-CZ-WUH-SFO
Last edited by stephem; Oct 14, 2016 at 11:39 am
Oct 16, 2016, 3:43 pm
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THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING CZ FLIGHTS 659 THROUGH 660.
Oct 17, 2016, 9:53 pm
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Sorry, I was looking at fare basis IXPRZU which doesn't have that flight limitation (as does IXP4ZU). IXPRZU allows any CZ flight for the TPAC sector. It is however about $150 more in price for base fare.
Oct 17, 2016, 10:32 pm
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There's a 24 hour version of TWOV that allows domestic flights within China, but IIRC you cannot go through WUH with most passports, including USA. Check the big sticky TWOV thread in the China forum for precise details.