SQ: LAX/SFO/JFK-SIN r/t $1,150 in PE
Sep 12, 2017, 8:12 pm
#31
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Jun 5, 2018, 4:54 pm
#32
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 306
This fare is back on the NYC-SIN route. You can fly either JFK-FRA-SIN or the new EWR-SIN nonstop commencing in October.
Examples:
JFK-FRA-SIN -- $1,196
EWR-SIN -- $1,247
Code:
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. Category 3: Seasonal restrictions PERMITTED 11OCT 18 THROUGH 12DEC 18 OR 07JAN 19 THROUGH 31MAR 19 ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. Category 15: Sales restrictions TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 04JUN 18 AND ON/BEFORE 18JUN 18.
JFK-FRA-SIN -- $1,196
EWR-SIN -- $1,247
Jun 5, 2018, 6:13 pm
#33
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,369
huh, loaded june 4th...wasn't there on june 1st when SQ announced SQ21/22 (and updated fare basis then), wonder why not
books into P too, PE Standard (not the cheapest R bucket)
nonstop is $100 more expensive on base fare, but you save $49.50 on the FRA stopover tax
books into P too, PE Standard (not the cheapest R bucket)
nonstop is $100 more expensive on base fare, but you save $49.50 on the FRA stopover tax
Jun 5, 2018, 7:27 pm
#35
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Jun 6, 2018, 9:29 am
#36
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lake Villa, IL
Posts: 79
My wife is pushing to jump on this fare, but I really dont know if I can handle premium economy for almost 20 hours. Is it like domestic first class and then just add on the leg rests? I have seen pictures of it, doesnt look to bad, but I just dont know.
Jun 6, 2018, 10:02 am
#39
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Jun 6, 2018, 10:11 am
#40
Join Date: Oct 2012
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where to credit (link), fare rules below. Very tempting!
[KVS Tool 8.8.9/Diamond - Fare Rules: NYC-SIN/SQ/PXTUS07/*]
[KVS Tool 8.8.9/Diamond - Fare Rules: NYC-SIN/SQ/PXTUS07/*]
Code:
[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SINGAPORE AIRLINES TRANSPACIFIC SHORT TERM SPECIAL
FARES
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM UNITED STATES
TO AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY/PREMIUM
ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER'S BEST
JUDGEMENT.
RULES NOT APPLICABLE
RULE 35 - PASSENGERS EXPENSES EN ROUTE.
[Day/Time]
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
[Seasonality]
PERMITTED 11OCT18 THROUGH 12DEC18 OR 07JAN19 THROUGH
31MAR19 ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR. SEASON IS
BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN.
[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
SQ FLIGHTS 021 THROUGH 022.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 3
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ
ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI
ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI.
[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
OPEN RETURNS NOT PERMITTED DEPARTURE OF FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 60 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 21 DAYS
AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--RESERVATIONS MUST BE CONFIRMED FOR THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC OR TRANSATLANTIC JOURNEY.
--AUTOMATED TICKETING CONTROL DEADLINE
DIFFERENCES COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULES AND/OR
OTHER CARRIERS AUTO GENERATED TICKETING
DEADLINE MESSAGE. THE MOST RESTICTIVE TICKETING
DEADLINE SHALL APPLY
--FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE TICKETING DEADLINES
WILL RESULT IN CANCELLATION OF THE ENTIRE
RESERVATION INCLUDING INTERLINE AND/OR
GROUND/HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS IN THAT PNR
OR - OPEN RETURNS NOT PERMITTED DEPARTURE OF FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7
DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--RESERVATIONS MUST BE CONFIRMED FOR THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC OR TRANSATLANTIC JOURNEY.
--AUTOMATED TICKETING CONTROL DEADLINE
DIFFERENCES COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULES AND/OR
OTHER CARRIERS AUTO GENERATED TICKETING
DEADLINE MESSAGE. THE MOST RESTICTIVE TICKETING
DEADLINE SHALL APPLY
--FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE TICKETING DEADLINES
WILL RESULT IN CANCELLATION OF THE ENTIRE
RESERVATION INCLUDING INTERLINE AND/OR
GROUND/HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS IN THAT PNR
OR - OPEN RETURNS NOT PERMITTED DEPARTURE OF FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3
DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--RESERVATIONS MUST BE CONFIRMED FOR THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC OR TRANSATLANTIC JOURNEY.
--AUTOMATED TICKETING CONTROL DEADLINE
DIFFERENCES COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULES AND/OR
OTHER CARRIERS AUTO GENERATED TICKETING
DEADLINE MESSAGE. THE MOST RESTICTIVE TICKETING
DEADLINE SHALL APPLY
--FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE TICKETING DEADLINES
WILL RESULT IN CANCELLATION OF THE ENTIRE
RESERVATION INCLUDING INTERLINE AND/OR
GROUND/HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS IN THAT PNR
OR - TICKETING DEPARTURE OF FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR
MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS
ARE MADE OR THE DAY OF DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS
EARLIER.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--RESERVATIONS MUST BE CONFIRMED FOR THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC OR TRANSATLANTIC JOURNEY.
--AUTOMATED TICKETING CONTROL DEADLINE
DIFFERENCES COULD EXIST BETWEEN FARE RULES AND/OR
OTHER CARRIERS AUTO GENERATED TICKETING
DEADLINE MESSAGE. THE MOST RESTICTIVE TICKETING
DEADLINE SHALL APPLY
--FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE TICKETING DEADLINES
WILL RESULT IN CANCELLATION OF THE ENTIRE
RESERVATION INCLUDING INTERLINE AND/OR
GROUND/HOTEL ACCOMMODATIONS IN THAT PNR
[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
1 MONTH AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
[Stopovers]
STOPOVERS ARE NOT PERMITTED AT INTERMEDIATE POINTS.
[Transfers]
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION.
NONE PERMITTED IN HKG/SEL/TYO
2 PERMITTED BETWEEN SQ AND MI/SQ/TR IN SIN.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED
ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
[Sales/Ticketing Restrictions]
FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 04JUN18 AND ON/BEFORE
18JUN18.
FARE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF SQ OR MI AND
MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT
CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
CHARGE USD 200.00 FOR CANCEL.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
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FOR JOURNEYS TO/FROM AMERICAS / EUROPE / AFRICA
SOUTHWEST PACIFIC EXCEPT FOR
JOURNEYS BETWEEN RUSSIA AND SWEDEN
OR BETWEEN AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND
BEFORE/AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD200
--------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CHARGE HAS TO BE CONVERTED INTO
LOCAL CURRENCY AT THE BANKERS SELLING RATE.
--------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT
WITHOUT A SEAT.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL
NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASES OF NO-SHOW CHARGE NO SHOW FEE OF USD200
AND CANCELLATION FEE OF USD200 FOR CANCEL
UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE
RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED
FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED.
--------------------------------------------------
FOR ANY CANCELLATIONS THE STRICTER FARE
CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
--------------------------------------------------
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE USD 50.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--------------------------------------------------
FOR ALL JOURNEYS BEFORE/AFTER FIRST FLIGHT
DEPARTURE - USD50
--------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CHARGE HAS TO BE CONVERTED INTO
LOCAL CURRENCY AT THE BANKERS SELLING RATE.
--------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT
WITHOUT A SEAT.
--------------------------------------------------
THE NEW BASE FARE MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
THE ORIGINAL BASE FARE FOLLOWING ANY TICKET
CHANGES.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON-
REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
IN CASES OF NO-SHOW CHARGE HIGHER OF
NO SHOW FEE USD200 OR REBOOKING FEE USD50
FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION UNLESS PROOF OF
CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED
TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS
PROVIDED.
--------------------------------------------------
FOR ANY TICKET CHANGES THE STRICTER FARE
CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
--------------------------------------------------
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SQ CUSTOMER COMMITMENT -
SINGAPORE AIRLINES WILL ALLOW CONSUMERS TO CANCEL
A RESERVATION MADE USING THE SINGAPORE AIRLINES
WEB SITE /WWW.SINGAPOREAIR.COM/ WITHOUT PENALTY
FOR 24 HOURS AFTER THE RESERVATION IS MADE.
AS LONG AS THAT RESERVATION IS MADE ONE WEEK
OR MORE PRIOR TO A FLIGHT/S SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
------------------------------------
CONSUMERS WILL NEED TO CALL OUR CONTACT CENTRE
TO CANCEL SUCH ONLINE BOOKINGS
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
A USD50 SERVICE FEE WILL BE CHARGED FOR TICKETING
SERVICES PROVIDED BY SINGAPOREAIR AIRLINES
STAFF AT THE AIRPORTS / TICKET OFFICE / OR
THROUGH SINGAPORE AIRLINE/S TELEPHONE
RESERVATION LINE.
------
A USD150 SERVISE FEE WILL BE CHARGED FOR
SERVICING RTW AND AIRPASS TICKETS.
---
FEES WILL BE LEVIED FOR THE FOLLOWING TRACTIONS
- TICKET / MCO REFUND
- NEW TICKET ISSUANCE
- TICKET RE-ISSUANCE OR REVALIDATION
- SINGAPORE STOPOVER HOLIDAY HOTELS
--
THE SERVICE FEE OF USD50 OR USD150 IS
NON-REFUNDABLE
[Combinations]
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH
NO RESTRICTIONS.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY D-/U-/J-/C-/Z-/S-/T-/P-/
R TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER SQ IN RULE USR1/YSQ1 IN
TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
OR RULE USR1/YSP1 IN TARIFF
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC.
[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
STOPOVERS.
[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NON END - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
CHILD UNDER THE AGE OF 5 MUST TRAVEL WITH
AN ADULT AGED 18 YEARS AND ABOVE
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
[Minimum Stay]
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
[Blackout Dates]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
[Surcharges]
NO SURCHARGE REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
[Tour Conductor Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.
[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
[Voluntary Changes]
<SPECIFIC CATEGORY REQUEST REQUIRED> FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.
[Voluntary Refunds]
CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.
[International Construction]
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
Jun 6, 2018, 5:17 pm
#41
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, UA 1k.
Posts: 296
quite comfortable
I dont even want to comment on the quality of service, compared to US carriers.
Regarding upgrades: I’ve never had my requests clear, even as KF Gold. Maybe they do for PPS.
Jun 6, 2018, 5:26 pm
#42
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lake Villa, IL
Posts: 79
I just returned yesterday from SIN-FRA-JFK on SQ26 in PE. Quite bearable and almost enjoyable compared to Y. I had a window seat, there is some space between it and the side panels, which I liked. Seats are very comfortable, nicely padded. One can order meals ahead of time, quite tasty. And PE is often less crowded than Y, cabin was half full from FRA to JFK.
I dont even want to comment on the quality of service, compared to US carriers.
Regarding upgrades: I’ve never had my requests clear, even as KF Gold. Maybe they do for PPS.
Jun 6, 2018, 7:40 pm
#43
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: AS 75K, DL Silver, UA Platinum, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Platinum + LT Gold
Posts: 10,460
I might try to this route early next year. Maybe PE on the way to SIN and J on the way back to EWR due to timing?
Jun 8, 2018, 12:02 am
#44
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Phx, AZ
Programs: BA Gold, AS MVPG
Posts: 664
thank you! I just checked for next March and the weekend departures are almost double the cost unfortunately, if anyone can fly midweek, this is a great deal!
If credited to UA, looks like 100% PQM and 100% RDM based on distance.
A few of the itins to Singapore were routed through LHR (VS) or SFO (VX) - not sure if these are creditable to UA
If credited to UA, looks like 100% PQM and 100% RDM based on distance.
A few of the itins to Singapore were routed through LHR (VS) or SFO (VX) - not sure if these are creditable to UA
Jun 8, 2018, 12:10 am
#45
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: APAC
Programs: AA EXP, Hyatt Globalist, JL JGC
Posts: 143
EQDs (or PQDs in UA-speak) are only granted for 016 tickets.
