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Old Aug 13, 2016, 4:38 pm
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AA: LAX-HKG in F for < 4K

No idea what a fare runs in F on this route but this seems really low.

Open from November to early January
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Old Aug 13, 2016, 5:57 pm
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Yes, $3982 all in for the LAX-HKG non-stop. It's $12k to $17 for the other options. Interesting that P is only $500 more than I on this.
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Old Aug 14, 2016, 4:09 am
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Too bad it earn's marginally more RDM and the same EQM.
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Old Aug 14, 2016, 7:30 am
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you would get a lot of EQM if it books into F or A.
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Old Aug 14, 2016, 7:41 am
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Fare rules & restrictions
American Airlines Inc. (AA) ILX0O8C1 LAX to HKG
General notes
Category 2: Day/Time restrictions
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED/THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Category 3: Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 07SEP 16 THROUGH 30NOV 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
AA FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 9999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
Category 4: Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY KE FLIGHT OPERATED BY CZ
ANY KE FLIGHT OPERATED BY VN
ANY OZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO/VIA HNL
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
Category 5: Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
NOTE -
TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 3 DAYS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 24 HOURS.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 24 HOURS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 3 HOURS.
Category 6: Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Category 7: Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
MIDNIGHT 6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Category 8: Stopover restrictions
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION AT THE GATEWAY IN AREA 3 AT USD 100.00 EACH.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
Category 9: Transfer restrictions
3 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
FREE BETWEEN AA AND AA/US IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 1 TRANSFER PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 FREE BETWEEN AA AND AA/CA/CI/CX/CZ/HU/KA/MU IN
CHINA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA AND AA/CX/JL/KA/NU IN JAPAN IN
EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA AND AA/CX/JL/KA/KE/OZ IN
KOREA, REPUBLIC OF IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
Category 10: Combinability
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL
FARE COMPONENTS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
-TO FORM. ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER AA/JL IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PACIFIC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PACIFIC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PACIFIC
PAAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PACIFIC
OR RULE PA05/7100 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PACIFIC.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT-
FLL-MIA OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC LAX-ONT BUR-LAX
LAX-LGB LAX-SNA BUR-ONT LGB-ONT ONT-SNA BUR-LGB
ORF-PHF BUR-SNA LGB-SNA EWR-NYC BWI-WAS
Category 12: Surcharges
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ INFANTS.
2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
THERE IS NO CHARGE PER FARE COMPONENT FOR TRANSPACIFIC
SECTORS.
NOTE -
YR FEE MAY APPLY
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM MEXICO.
NOTE -
THIS IS A BAGGAGE INSPECTION SURCHARGE WHICH
APPLIES TO ADT/CHD. IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY
DISCOUNT.
ORIGINATING AREA 1 -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 175.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL WHEN TRAVEL IS
TO/FROM/VIA CHINA.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG
AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF USD 1.75 PER COUPON
WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE
FROM MEXICO.
NOTE -
THIS IS A BAGGAGE INSPECTION SURCHARGE WHICH
APPLIES TO ADT/CHD. IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY
DISCOUNT.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS.
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD IN
VENEZUELA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA
3
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS.
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
OR - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA
1/AREA 2/AREA 3
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY
SELF TICKETS/WRITE-YOUR-OWN TICKETS. PTA CONSTITUTES
TICKETING.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA.
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL
AGENTS.
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
AND - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA.
SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
NOTE -
THIS FARE MAY BE SOLD BY TRAVEL AGENTS. STANDARD
COMMISSION RATES APPLY.
AND - SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 29AUG 16.
Category 15: Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. EXTENSION
OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
Category 16: Penalties
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/
REFUND.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
OR TRAVELING COMPANION.
----
FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
CHANGES
BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 400.00.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
OR TRAVELING COMPANION.
----
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE.
CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PRIOR TO THE
TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME OF EACH FLIGHT PROVIDED
THE NEW ITINERARY MEETS ALL THE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEW FARE PURCHASED
I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATION/TICKET PURCHASE MINIMUM
/MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS.
ITINERARIES MAY BE REBOOKED AND TRAVEL MUST
COMMENCE UP TO ONE YEAR FROM THE ORIGINAL
TICKET ISSUE DATE PROVIDED TICKETED
FLIGHT IS CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE
TIME. IF TICKETED FLIGHT IS NOT CANCELLED PRIOR
TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
TICKETS AT THESE FARES MAY NOT BE REVALIDATED
TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED. FARE DIFFERENCE AND
CHANGE FEE MUST BE PAID AND TICKETS MUST BE
REISSUED WHEN THE ITINERARY IS REBOOKED.
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE ADD COLLECTED AND THE
USD 400.00 CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY.
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE NO
REFUNDS WILL BE MADE HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE IN
FARE WILL BE RETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE
FORM OF A NON REFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY
BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID
FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA/JL. THE USD
400.00
CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY.
AFTER DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 400.00.
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
OR TRAVELING COMPANION.
----
THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
NON-REFUNDABLE.
CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PRIOR TO THE
TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME OF EACH FLIGHT PROVIDED
THE NEW ITINERARY MEETS ALL THE PROVISIONS
OF THE NEW FARE PURCHASED
I.E. ADVANCE RESERVATION/TICKET PURCHASE MINIMUM
/MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS.
ITINERARIES MAY BE REBOOKED AND TRAVEL MUST
COMMENCE UP TO ONE YEAR FROM THE ORIGINAL
TICKET ISSUE DATE PROVIDED TICKETED
FLIGHT IS CANCELLED PRIOR TO TICKETED DEPARTURE
TIME. IF TICKETED FLIGHT IS NOT CANCELLED PRIOR
TO TICKETED DEPARTURE TIME TICKET HAS NO VALUE.
TICKETS AT THESE FARES MAY NOT BE REVALIDATED
TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED. FARE DIFFERENCE AND
CHANGE FEE MUST BE PAID AND TICKETS MUST BE
REISSUED WHEN THE ITINERARY IS REBOOKED.
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE ADD COLLECTED AND THE
USD 400.00 CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY.
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE NO
REFUNDS WILL BE MADE HOWEVER THE DIFFERENCE IN
FARE WILL BE RETURNED TO THE PASSENGER IN THE
FORM OF A NON REFUNDABLE TRAVEL VOUCHER WHICH MAY
BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A TICKET VALID
FOR TRANSPORTATION GOVERNED BY AA/JL. THE USD
400.00
CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY.
Category 18: Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
NONREF/FEE ON CHG - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
Category 23: Miscellaneous Fare Tags
THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE HIGH OR THE LOW FARE
WHEN CALCULATING A DIFFERENTIAL. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE
USED AS THE THROUGH FARE WHEN PRICING A FARE COMPONENT
WITH A DIFFERENTIAL.
Category 25: Fare By Rule
ORIGINATING THE UNITED STATES -
FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
Category 31: Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE USD 400.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - INFANT/CHILD DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. AA/JL/QF ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. AA/JL/QF ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA VOUCHER
ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE USD 400.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - INFANT/CHILD DISCOUNTS APPLY AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. AA/JL/QF ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA VOUCHER
ENDORSEMENT BOX- NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. AA/JL/QF ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. AA/JL/QF ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. AA/JL/QF ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT EOU/ERU ARE USED
4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL FROM
THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND - REFUND VIA ORIGINAL
FORM OF PAYMENT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
Category 33: Voluntary cancellations
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY 16
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Old Aug 14, 2016, 9:24 am
  #6  
 
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Originally Posted by olouie
you would get a lot of EQM if it books into F or A.
A & P earn same EQM.. However, F will be 3X vs 2X on A or P.
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Old Aug 14, 2016, 10:29 am
  #7  
 
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If I route my journey via DFW, is the same fare going to be applicable?
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Old Aug 14, 2016, 5:23 pm
  #8  
 
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Only LAX-HKG non stop. I bought this a few days ago.
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by hedoman
Only LAX-HKG non stop. I bought this a few days ago.
no idea where you guys find it, any dates suggestion?
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 7:47 pm
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Saw this a week or so ago when AA sent a bunch of us targeted 25% discounts to HKG. After the code it was $3k all in for roundtrip first class. Unfortunately the blackout dates kill the deal for me

I was curious though if anyone has experienced the F class on AA's LAX-HKG route. I know it probably pales in comparison to CX or JL F

Just noticed the deal seems to be dead altogether though

Last edited by FlyingFrZ; Aug 29, 2016 at 8:03 pm
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Old Aug 29, 2016, 10:12 pm
  #11  
 
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Gone i think... i have been only able to find some 6500 around price... good but not as good as 3.800

If you find it... let me know
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 1:10 pm
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Posts: 1,447
I was trying to book this without success. Then I read the fare rules.

Outbound travel must be before Nov. 30th, no Friday, Saturday or Sunday departure and 7 day minimum.
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Old Aug 30, 2016, 6:14 pm
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Posts: 1,276
Originally Posted by FlyingFrZ
I was curious though if anyone has experienced the F class on AA's LAX-HKG route.
I have not yet flown in F on this route yet but I have a flight booked in November.

I have flown in F recently on 777W flights LAX-LHR and JFK-LHR. The differences between flying in J and F are: more space, bigger screen TV, and I guess more up market toiletries etc.

The menu seems identical to J, the difference being in F all the courses are served separately whereas in J all the courses except desert are served on a tray. It is possible that the wine choices are superior in F but I was not able to do a 1:1 comparison.

In theory you have better service as one flight attendant appears dedicated to serving the 8 person F cabin whereas 2 are dedicated to serving the entire J cabin. In reality, in my experience, it depends on the flight attendant. I have had outstanding friendly, thoughtful service on one LAX-LHR flight and good but not outstanding service in F on another. On one JFK-LHR flight the service was similar to F service.

I have been using SWUs to upgrade to F largely because I passed the 2 million mile mark and had more SWUs than I really could use. Otherwise I am not sure that I would go ever for this sale price in F, versus the J cabin on the 777W.
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Old Aug 31, 2016, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by FlyingFrZ
I was curious though if anyone has experienced the F class on AA's LAX-HKG route. I know it probably pales in comparison to CX or JL F
The route doesn't start for another week (7-Sept I believe), so nobody has experienced F on LAX-HKG.

That said, plenty of reports on the 77W hard product which has been flying for maybe 2 years. Good seat, lots of space, great for working (can swivel seat toward window/center where there's an extra desk), but privacy isn't great. Some issues with galley light in certain seats because the US carriers still won't use solid curtains for security reasons.

The soft product is expected to be the "enhanced" soft product that was recently introduced on LAX-SYD (and I think extended to DFW-HKG) to be more comparable with JV partner Qantas. Catering is enhanced with more options and dine-on-demand (a bit of a novelty for a US carrier! ) There should be examples in the LAX-SYD thread and/or the International Meals thread on the AA forum. Reviews have been pretty positive, although there's the typical crew variability. The bubbly I believe is LPGS, which personally I like better than the Krug (though I suppose below JL's Salon).

F passengers also get AA's "Five-Star" service at both ends, which is essentially an escort through the entire ground process. Have heard very very good things about it in LAX specifically. I think it's offered by QF in SYD, not sure who does it in HKG, since it's not offered for sale in either of those markets per the webpage. Assuming you do get it in HKG, that's certainly an improvement over what CX offers its F passengers!
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Old Aug 31, 2016, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by ijgordon
F passengers also get AA's "Five-Star" service at both ends, which is essentially an escort through the entire ground process. Have heard very very good things about it in LAX specifically. I think it's offered by QF in SYD, not sure who does it in HKG, since it's not offered for sale in either of those markets per the webpage. Assuming you do get it in HKG, that's certainly an improvement over what CX offers its F passengers!
Really? I flew DFW<->HKG in F earlier this year (purchased J, upgraded to F) and didn't experience any special ground service. On the AA webpage, it states:

Each service option is priced separately.
Within the U.S.
$250 per adult, per option

Outside the U.S.
$300 per adult, per option, plus local taxes where applicable
$75 each additional adult
$50 each child (17 years and under)
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