AA: FRA-HNL & MUC-HNL 1466 Euro BIZ (I/P) R/T
Apr 17, 2016, 11:13 am
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(EXPIRED) AA: FRA-HNL & MUC-HNL 1466 Euro BIZ (I/P) R/T
Booking via Expedia Germany you can get American Airlines business class flights via DFW and LAX from FRA and MUC to HNL. Price is 1466 Euro. From Munich it also works a bit cheaper. Flight books into I class full flat configuration towards LAX via DFW, then from LAX in P class towards HNL. Wide open July and August no minimum stay. Seems that no other routings possible. But I am sure the experts here can advise.
Last edited by Shl; Apr 19, 2016 at 12:12 pm
Apr 17, 2016, 11:34 am
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Apr 17, 2016, 12:11 pm
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No. However, I doubt that you wanna take the 777 from FRA-DFW and back, looks like the old configuration on AA's website. Only nice part would be the 763 DFW-HNL. Also, if you fly from Munich you get the A330, but also get the same flight number on the PHL-LAX leg with all the implications for mileage and tp earning.
Apr 17, 2016, 1:17 pm
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Booking via Expedia Germany you can get American Airlines business class flights via DFW and LAX from FRA and MUC to HNL. Price is 1466 Euro. From Munich it also works a bit cheaper. Flight books into I class full flat configuration towards LAX via DFW, then from LAX in P class towards HNL. Wide open July and August no minimum stay. Seems that no other routings possible. But I am sure the experts here can advise.
Apr 17, 2016, 2:03 pm
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Last edited by Shl; Apr 17, 2016 at 2:14 pm
Apr 17, 2016, 2:47 pm
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I think the old configurations are the killer for this deal. If you'd want some comfort and routing flexibility take the DUB or OSL fares.
Apr 17, 2016, 2:59 pm
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Apr 17, 2016, 3:14 pm
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I only count 700TP with 2x(210+140) and while you could do the HNL-PTY run, you could also do many other west-coast cities and make e.g. 20 segments work. Basically done that in reverse last year. Would end up being way cheaper regarding the cheap ex-EUs to the west coast.
I think the old configurations are the killer for this deal. If you'd want some comfort and routing flexibility take the DUB or OSL fares.
I think the old configurations are the killer for this deal. If you'd want some comfort and routing flexibility take the DUB or OSL fares.
Last edited by Shl; Apr 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Apr 17, 2016, 4:36 pm
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good fare for the German market. Very similar to the DUB-HNL fares last year. Some booking sited (like Fluege.de) show the TATL in coach and only the domestic portion in C/F ... will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Apr 17, 2016, 4:51 pm
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On Expedia the 1466 Euro show also up for the whole trip in eco booking class S.