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IAkH Sep 18, 2015 2:47 am

(All Carriers) OTP-PHX $1670 roundtrip Business
 
Forgive me if this is old. They've been battling this market out for over a year now, but I've never seen it posted here.

AA/BA/IB/AY: ILR28AP
UA/AC/LX/OS/SN: PLNCROW
DL/AF/KL: ZHPRRO
AZ: IHPRR3

Some standouts are AZ earning 300% on AZ/EY, and AC earning 200% on UA/A3/ET/TP. Many others earn 200% in their on FFPs

Seasonal restrictions
Code:

  PERMITTED 28MAR 15 THROUGH 11APR 15 OR 01JUL 15 THROUGH
  31AUG 15 OR 21NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 24DEC 15 THROUGH
  31DEC 15 OR 19MAR 16 THROUGH 03APR 16 OR 01JUL 16 THROUGH
  31AUG 16 OR 19NOV 16 THROUGH 26NOV 16
  OR - PERMITTED 24DEC 16 THROUGH 31DEC 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
      TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

*A is also available from KIV for a few dollars more

sand372 Sep 18, 2015 3:01 am


Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 25443240)
Forgive me if this is old. They've been battling this market out for over a year now, but I've never seen it posted here.

AA/BA/IB/AY: ILR28AP
UA/AC/LX/OS/SN: PLNCROW
DL/AF/KL: ZHPRRO
AZ: IHPRR3

Some standouts are AZ earning 300% on AZ/EY, and AC earning 200% on UA/A3/ET/TP. Many others earn 200% in their on FFPs

Seasonal restrictions
Code:

  PERMITTED 28MAR 15 THROUGH 11APR 15 OR 01JUL 15 THROUGH
  31AUG 15 OR 21NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 24DEC 15 THROUGH
  31DEC 15 OR 19MAR 16 THROUGH 03APR 16 OR 01JUL 16 THROUGH
  31AUG 16 OR 19NOV 16 THROUGH 26NOV 16
  OR - PERMITTED 24DEC 16 THROUGH 31DEC 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
      TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

*A is also available from KIV for a few dollars more

Great find, very date restricted, might use it as position to OTP is cheap...
Do you have any other fares with less restrictive dates?

albert436 Sep 18, 2015 3:56 am

I wonder if anyone could explain why and how they decide on all those particular dates that travel is allowed ?

I think I see Thanksgiving and Christmas weeks there but not sure about the others. (?)

Can a round trip be started in one of those time periods and finished in another ? Or does each trip need to be confined to one single time period ?

Just curious and thanks !

:D

ranskis Sep 18, 2015 5:27 am

Summer holidays and Easter holidays, when business travel is usually weaker?

NoStressHere Sep 18, 2015 6:51 am

Bucharest to Phoenix. Interesting.

Solon594 Sep 18, 2015 1:13 pm

First Class prices are good as well
 
I have been following this fare in F for many months now. It is stable at $3800ish on BA as far as the calendar will let me look. This is my back up plan for getting back from Europe to Phoenix if ever needed. (So far a half dozen well-timed DUB and FCO flights in F have filled up my calendar for as far next year as the airlines will let me book, though . . . despite a few failed PRG-MEX flights. :( )

Unionruler Feb 17, 2019 5:07 am

Find it rather amusing that OTP-PHX has become cheaper and cheaper over the years. BA members feel free to build in more stops for TPs. Also interesting are Skyteam routings at ~$60 more allowing transfers at SEA/SFO/LAX.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...043ecd7999.png

SFO777 Feb 17, 2019 7:41 am

Looks like WAW-PHX is in the same $1,450 range.

Thysk Feb 18, 2019 2:41 am

Great find! Does anyone have a suggestion to maximize this into a TP run?

denkigroove Feb 18, 2019 3:01 am


Originally Posted by Thysk (Post 30791789)
Great find! Does anyone have a suggestion to maximize this into a TP run?

There exist different threads about it - below one for meeting up.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...up-thread.html

freed0m Feb 18, 2019 3:33 am

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...09a4594fc1.jpg


720TP with Iberia A350 and BA 787

priceline:

https://www.priceline.com/m/fly/search/OTP-PHX-20190823/PHX-OTP-20190829/details/R_OTP201908230450MAD201908230735IIB3657~MAD2019082 31650JFK201908231840IIB6253~JFK201908232115LAX2019 08240043IIB4551~LAX201908240600PHX201908240719IAA2 027-PHX201908290600LAX201908290718IAA3196~LAX201908290 954BOS201908291840IAA167~BOS201908292250LHR2019083 01020IAA6165~LHR201908301140OTP201908301700IAA6649 _1_USD0.00?num-adults=1&cjevent=360d9295336811e982c401f80a18050f& refid=CO8073572&refclickid=11554367SID

flightnetwork:

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LAX21 Feb 18, 2019 4:47 am

That departure time for the MAD flight is just awful. Whomever came up with that hour should take that flight a couple of times a week. And IB will probably complain that the "route is not profitable", same as TP did when they pulled out of the LIS-OTP route, which also had a similar crappy departure / arrival time...
This fare is very interesting, I actually need to go to LAX, how much of a stopover can I have in PHX?

onobond Feb 18, 2019 5:25 am

Rules for minimum says 6 days or Saturday night, but that concerns the TATL flights. It's actually possible to do a B2B in PHX on Saturday, spend <24h in LAX before continuing the inbound.

dutchgirlDH Feb 18, 2019 6:30 am


Originally Posted by Unionruler (Post 30788379)
Find it rather amusing that OTP-PHX has become cheaper and cheaper over the years. BA members feel free to build in more stops for TPs. Also interesting are Skyteam routings at ~$60 more allowing transfers at SEA/SFO/LAX.

Thanks Unionruler! Do you know if a Skyteam routing is possible via NYC? or what a max XP routing would be? Probably via SEA or LAX? Stopovers allowed?

Unionruler Feb 18, 2019 9:25 am


Originally Posted by dutchgirlDH (Post 30792223)
Thanks Unionruler! Do you know if a Skyteam routing is possible via NYC? or what a max XP routing would be? Probably via SEA or LAX? Stopovers allowed?

On fare basis ZLPREU (DL), base fare $495 in each direction, $1,510 return after tax the routing OTP-CDG-LAX/SFO/SEA-SLC-PHX is possible with all DL flight numbers. I think this is 2 x (15 + 30 + 10 + 10) = 130 XPs but someone please correct me if it's inaccurate. No stopovers permitted though.

There is a fare basis ZLXLSRO (AF), base fare $618 in each direction which allows routings via Canada e.g. OTP-CDG-YVR-SEA-PHX, but since Flying Blue is revenue based, I don't think the extra XPs are worth giving up >10k RDMs for.

Routing via NYC is very easy to construct.


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