YVR-SIN $2468 on United
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Yes, if you force the routing through DEN, you can fly UA the whole way if you need UA pqm or actual flight miles (for million miler status). If you want, you can overnight in DEN to rest up.
#17
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I know
I just looked at this business cradle seat. It sucks so badly. 59" seat pitch. I can't believe modern jetliners make these any more. Even United has stopped these baracalounger style seats. I can't believe that they would do this. That is just painful.
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You don't have to fly on ANA's 787. If you wish to avoid the angle flat seats, fly YVR-SFO or YVR-DEN and then to Singapore on UA from there.
Price on either come to about $2900 CDN or $2300 USD. A good deal. I found plenty of availability on many routes in the summer. Didn't show up on ITA Matrix, but easily shows up on United.com
Price on either come to about $2900 CDN or $2300 USD. A good deal. I found plenty of availability on many routes in the summer. Didn't show up on ITA Matrix, but easily shows up on United.com
The 787 with seats and service far superior to UA is available from/to SEA and just do you transfer there.
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Then why is it listed as a 787 as the plane type then?
And ANA does have 787-8's with the recliner: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/ANA..._787-800_D.php
And ANA does have 787-8's with the recliner: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/ANA..._787-800_D.php
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Then why is it listed as a 787 as the plane type then?
And ANA does have 787-8's with the recliner: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/ANA..._787-800_D.php
And ANA does have 787-8's with the recliner: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/ANA..._787-800_D.php
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NH flies from YVR to HND in a 763.
AC flies VYR to NRT in a 788.
They each code share on the other's flight.
NH has two configurations for its 787s: lay flat and recliner.
The recliner is for regional operations, but they use it for as long of a flight as SIN, which is blocked for about 7-hours.
Like all airlines, you have to watch what you are getting.
AC flies VYR to NRT in a 788.
They each code share on the other's flight.
NH has two configurations for its 787s: lay flat and recliner.
The recliner is for regional operations, but they use it for as long of a flight as SIN, which is blocked for about 7-hours.
Like all airlines, you have to watch what you are getting.
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UA-PFW0ZCM4 Fare Rules
Is this the fare we're talking about? Decent routing options... e.g., Hawaii. But TPAC sector only permitted on Saturdays?
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YVRSIN-UA 08APR15 *RULE DISPLAY* TARIFF 0446 RULE PW2Z -FARE BASIS CAD NUC PTC FT GI PFW0ZCM4 R 2930.00 2337.75 ADT SP PA PFW0ZCM4/CH00 R 2930.00 2337.75 CNN SP PA PFW0ZCM4/IN90 R 293.00 233.77 INF SP PA PFW0ZCM4/CH00 R 2930.00 2337.75 INS SP PA PFW0ZCM4 R 2930.00 2337.75 UNN SP PA BOOKING CODES P INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - BXN - BUSINESS CLS EXCURSION NON REF MPM - PA 9556 VIA PACIFIC --------------------------------------------------------------- ROUTING 602 FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-DEN-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC -LAX/SEA/SFO/SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/ JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL -GUM-HKG-SIN* FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-DEN-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC -LAX/SEA/SFO/SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/ JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL -OSA/TYO-UA/NH-OSA/TYO-UA/NH-SEL-OZ -SIN* FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-DEN-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC -LAX/SEA/SFO/SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/ JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL -OSA/TYO-UA/NH-OSA/TYO-UA/NH-SIN* FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC-LAX/SEA/SFO/ SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/ MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL-GUM-HKG-SIN* FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC-LAX/SEA/SFO/ SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/ MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL-OSA/TYO-UA/NH -OSA/TYO-UA/NH-SEL-OZ-SIN* FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC-LAX/SEA/SFO/ SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/ MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL-OSA/TYO-UA/NH -OSA/TYO-UA/NH-SIN* FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-YYC-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC -LAX/SEA/SFO/SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/ JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL -GUM-HKG-SIN* FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-YYC-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC -LAX/SEA/SFO/SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/ JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL -OSA/TYO-UA/NH-OSA/TYO-UA/NH-SEL-OZ -SIN* FROM-TO YVR-UA/AC-YYC-UA/AC-LAX/SFO-UA/AC -LAX/SEA/SFO/SJC-HNL-UA/HA/WP-ITO/ JHM/KOA/LIH/LNY/MKK/OGG-UA/HA/WP-HNL -OSA/TYO-UA/NH-OSA/TYO-UA/NH-SIN* [Rule Application & Other Conditions] NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. PACIFIC ROUND TRIP UPPER CABIN SAVER FARES APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3. CLASS OF SERVICE THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE. TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES. FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS. CAPACITY LIMITATIONS THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE A VAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. [Day/Time] PERMITTED SAT ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. [Seasonality] PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 31DEC ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN. [Flight Application] THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY NH ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY NQ ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA AND BKK/SIN THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA AND TPE THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY BR ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN TYO/OSA AND JKT/DPS THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED STATES THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AC FLIGHT. [Advance Reservations/Ticketing] CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE. [Maximum Stay] TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN. [Stopovers] 2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH DIRECTION AT CAD 100.00 EACH NONE IN GUAM IN AREA 3 CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. [Transfers] 1 TRANSFER REQUIRED 6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION. 1 REQUIRED FREE IN UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 2 FREE IN UNITED STATES IN EACH DIRECTION 3 FREE IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION. FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT. [Surcharges] IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2. OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2. OR - NEGOTIATED INFANT PSGR UNDER 2. OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2. THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER COUPON PER ANY PASSENGER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT. ORIGINATING CANADA - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE SURCHARGE IS A NAVIGATION SURCHARGE. THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. - NOTE --YQ MAY APPLY AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA TKK. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT TRUK IN MICRONESIA. THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE. AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA YAP. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT YAP IN THE REPUBLIC OF THE MARSHALL ISLANDS. THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE. AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 18.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA ROR. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE FACILITY SURCHARGE APPLIES EACH TIME TRAVEL INVOLVES ENPLANEMENT AT KOROR-PALAU ON A UA FLIGHT. THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE. AND - ORIGINATING SINGAPORE - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA TKK. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT TRUK IN MICRONESIA. THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE. AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA YAP. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT YAP IN THE REPUBLIC OF THE MARSHALL ISLANDS. THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE. AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 18.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA ROR. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. THE FACILITY SURCHARGE APPLIES EACH TIME TRAVEL INVOLVES ENPLANEMENT AT KOROR-PALAU ON A UA FLIGHT. THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT. THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2 YEARS OF AGE. [Sales/Ticketing Restrictions] FOOTNOTE RULE TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 30APR15. FARE RULE TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF UA OR NH. TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING. GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA. PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING. TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ARGENTINA. TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY DUE TO MEDICAL REASONS PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. FOR ITINERARIES SOLD OUTSIDE OF AR - CREDIT CARDS ISSUED IN AR ARE NOT ACCEPTED. EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. [Penalties] NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- HALF ROUNDTRIP FARE COMBINATION OF NON-REFUNDABLE / REFUNDABLE WITH A CANCELLATION PENALTY / FULLY REFUNDABLE - THE MOST RESTRICTIVE CANCELLATION PENALTY RULE APPLIES TO THE ENTIRE PRICING UNIT- -- CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE FOR REFUND/ CANCEL/NO SHOW NON-REFUNDABLE APPLIES TO ADULT/CHILD/INFANT -- RESERVATIONS MUST BE CANCELLED BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT OR TICKET HAS NO VALUE IF NO-SHOW. -- YR / YQ INTERNATIONAL SURCHARGE WILL NOT BE REFUNDED -- A. EXCHANGE - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET / CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON - -- FULL VALUE OF A WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED AT -CURRENT- EQUAL OR HIGHER FARE LEVELS UPON PAYMENT OF ADMINISTRATIVE FEE EQUAL TO CHANGE FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS RULE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE / TAXES / FEES / SURCHARGES WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME OF EXCHANGE. -- ORIGINAL RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELLED PRIOR TO ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT OR TICKET HAS NO VALUE IF NO-SHOW. -- RESERVATIONS FOR NEW ITINERARY ARE MADE AND TICKETS REISSUED NO LATER THAN 1 YEAR FROM DATE OF ISSUE ON ORIGINAL PURCHASED TICKET. -- THE NON-REFUNDABLE CANCELLATION AMOUNT OF THE TICKET BEING EXCHANGED REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE AND CARRIED FORWARD IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX OF THE NEW TICKET. -- RESERVATIONS MUST BE CANCELLED BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT OR TICKET HAS NO VALUE IF NO-SHOW. -- -- TAG-5 - WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET / CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON -- BEFORE DEPARATURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY -- CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY THOSE OF UA INTERNATIONAL FARES -- CHARGE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE EQUAL TO CHANGE FEE -- APPLY CAT19 PROVISIONS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT/ INFANT WITH A SEAT / CHILD -- REPRICE USING CURRENT QUALIFYING FARES -- 1. UA FARES ARE USED 2. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT -- EQUAL OR HIGHER FARE - REFUND NOT APPLICABLE // CHARGE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE EQUAL TO CHANGE FEE // ADD COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE - IF APPLICABLE -- ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS -- B. BOOKING CODE CHANGE PERMITTED -- WHEN A FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET OR A CURRENT FARE IS REDUCED OR BOOKING CODE BECOMES AVAILABLE / THE TICKETED PASSENGER MAY QUALIFY FOR ONE OF THE ABOVE OPTIONS. ALL PROVISIONS OF THE AIR FARE MUST BE MET BEFORE DEPARTURE. NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/DATES/FLIGHTS. --- ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE IS PERMITTED--. -- AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE EQUAL TO CHANGE FEE WILL BE ASSESSED. RESIDUAL VALUE /IF ANY / WILL BE RETURNED TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT. -- TAG - 7 - ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE PERMITTED -- BEFORE DEPARATURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY -- APPLY CAT19 PROVISIOINS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT / INFANT WITH A SEAT / CHILD -- REPRICE USING CURRENT QUALIFYING FARES ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE PERMITTED -- CHARGE CHANGE FEE -- 1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. UA FARES ARE USED 3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT -- --WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE -- -- REFUND RESIDUAL VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT -IF APPLICABLE RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE APPLIED TOWARD FEE. CHARGE CHANGE FEE ADD-COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE -IF APPLICABLE -- CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. -- APPLY CAT 19 PROVISIONS FOR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT / INFANT WITH A SEAT / CHILD -- -- CHANGE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT COUPON -- TICKET RESERVATIONS NOT BEING USED ARE TO BE CANCELLED PRIOR TO ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT. RETURN RESERVATIONS MAY BE SCHEDULED ANYTIME WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY. TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME WHEN VOLUNTARY CHANGE IS CONFIRMED. -- IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED FLIGHT THE FARE LEVELS IN EFFECT AT TIME OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE / IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR TICKETING REQUIREMENTS. -- TAG 1 - KEEP THE FARE / SAME BOOKING CODE / SAME FARE BASIS CODE -- CHARGE CHANGE FEE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ONLY CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -- REPRICE USING CURRENTLY TKTD FARE 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/ NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS 2. UA FARES ARE USED 3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET IGNORING ADVANCE RES / TKTG 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT -- EVEN REISSUE CHARGE CHANGE FEE -- ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS -- OR -- -- IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE / BUT RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE DUE TO DAY OF WEEK TRAVEL / SEASONALITY / CHANGE TO FARE BREAK - -- FARE IS NON-REFUNDABLE NO REFUND WILL BE MADE -- CHARGE FULL CHANGE FEE OF ONLY CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS. -- TAG 2 - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED -- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON / CHANGE TO FARE BREAK PERMITTED 2. UA FARES ARE USED 3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT -- --WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE -- CHARGE CHANGE FEE ADD-COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE - IF APPLICABLE -- ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS -- OR -- -- IF CHANGES BY THE PASSENGER NO LONGER QUALIFY FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED BOOKING CODE FARE - FULL VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS EQUAL OR HIGHER QUALIFYING BOOKING CODE FARE - USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE ORIGINAL TICKETING DATE. -- RECALCULATION TO LOWER BOOKING CODE IS NOT PERMITTED. -- FARE IS RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE/TAXES/FEES/SURCHARGE WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE. -- TAG 2 - REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED -- CHARGE CHANGE FEE OR HIGHEST FEE OF ONLY CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS -- 1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON / CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS PERMITTED 2. UA FARES ARE USED 3. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE THAN PREVIOUS TKT 4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET 5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT -- WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN FARE DIFFERENCE -- CHARGE CHANGE FEE ADD-COLLECT FARE DIFFERENCE-IF APPLICABLE -- [Combinations] END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION. OPEN JAWS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT. PROVIDED - WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS -BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3 -WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 3 COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH/AC/LH/LX/OS OR FOR CARRIER SN IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/NH/ AC/LH/LX/OS OR FOR CARRIER SN IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POINT - NYC-EWR [HIP/Mileage Exceptions] NOTE - ROUTING FARES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HIP CHECKS [Ticket Endorsement] THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NONREF/0VALUEAFTDPT/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. [Children Discounts] CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED. MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER. OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE. [Eligibility] NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. [Minimum Stay] NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY. [Blackout Dates] NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY. [Accompanied Travel] ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED. [Travel Restrictions] NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY. [Tour Conductor Discounts] NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS. [Agent Discounts] NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS. [All Other Discounts] NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS. [Miscellaneous Provisions] NO PROVISIONS APPLY. [Fare By Rule] NOT APPLICABLE. [Groups] NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY. [Tours] NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY. [Visit Another Country] NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY. [Deposits] NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY. [Voluntary Changes] <SPECIFIC CATEGORY REQUEST REQUIRED> FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS. [Voluntary Refunds] CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS. [Negotiated Fares] NOT APPLICABLE. [International Construction] NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
#23
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Lots and lots of misinformation in this thread...
ANA 787 Announcement
First 2 dates I checked, July 17 and Sep 1, 2015... YVR-HND is operated by a 787 with ANA Business Cradle seats, according to ANA website, when I try to book on ANA website and pull up their seat map for those exact flights...
Oddly, they do swap 767's back to this route later in the year.... on Oct 25th, for example, YVR-HND is a 767.
NH flies from YVR to HND in a 763.
AC flies VYR to NRT in a 788.
They each code share on the other's flight.
NH has two configurations for its 787s: lay flat and recliner.
The recliner is for regional operations, but they use it for as long of a flight as SIN, which is blocked for about 7-hours.
Like all airlines, you have to watch what you are getting.
AC flies VYR to NRT in a 788.
They each code share on the other's flight.
NH has two configurations for its 787s: lay flat and recliner.
The recliner is for regional operations, but they use it for as long of a flight as SIN, which is blocked for about 7-hours.
Like all airlines, you have to watch what you are getting.
Folks this isn't the 787 - all international NH 787s have the new business lie flat seat and stellar service. The YVR aircraft is an old regional 767 they are flying as an afterthought on this route....and frankly, I am not sure why they're even bothering with this route in the first place.
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First 2 dates I checked, July 17 and Sep 1, 2015... YVR-HND is operated by a 787 with ANA Business Cradle seats, according to ANA website, when I try to book on ANA website and pull up their seat map for those exact flights...
Oddly, they do swap 767's back to this route later in the year.... on Oct 25th, for example, YVR-HND is a 767.
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NH elite members get auto upgrades from economy to business in any revenue booking class on the YVR-HND route for until the end of June. Because nobody is buying those seats.
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Lots and lots of misinformation in this thread...
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First 2 dates I checked, July 17 and Sep 1, 2015... YVR-HND is operated by a 787 with ANA Business Cradle seats, according to ANA website, when I try to book on ANA website and pull up their seat map for those exact flights...
Oddly, they do swap 767's back to this route later in the year.... on Oct 25th, for example, YVR-HND is a 767.
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First 2 dates I checked, July 17 and Sep 1, 2015... YVR-HND is operated by a 787 with ANA Business Cradle seats, according to ANA website, when I try to book on ANA website and pull up their seat map for those exact flights...
Oddly, they do swap 767's back to this route later in the year.... on Oct 25th, for example, YVR-HND is a 767.
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FWIW - DL has pretty much matched this (as previously reported). I just scored YVR-NRT-SIN for $2600 in lie flat biz all the way. NICE! I was going to be short a few MQMs for DM on DL this year - No more - I'll be done by June.
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I finally bought a ticket YVR-DEN-HND-SIN-NRT-LAX-DEN-YVR for $2579.50 USD. This will give me 31,932 PQMs. The HND-SIN is on ANA; everything else is United.
Thanks to folks here for pointing out the DEN routing!
Thanks to folks here for pointing out the DEN routing!