Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm
Last edit by: skunker
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.
Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html
List of known, active deals:
JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return
BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html
Good Deal Premium Fares 2014
Oct 20, 2014, 12:03 pm
#3196
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Nashville, TN
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium.;UA 1.5MM; UA Lifetime Gold (whoppee); DL Plat
Posts: 2,124
Just a waiting game to see how enters the fray next!
Oct 20, 2014, 12:28 pm
#3197
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Emirates
Posts: 104
Yup. Gone.
Looks like QR dropped their USA fares ex-CMN a bit tho
Looks like QR dropped their USA fares ex-CMN a bit tho
Last edited by EKinBigD; Oct 20, 2014 at 12:46 pm
Oct 20, 2014, 1:07 pm
#3198
Join Date: May 2003
Programs: UA1k; Bonvoy Titanium; Hilton Gold; IHG Gold; AA Plat Pro
Posts: 1,794
Oct 20, 2014, 1:08 pm
#3199
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Portland, Oregon, USA
Programs: AA ExPlat, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 909
Was able to book SEA-LHR-LYS return last night on BA CW for a/i price of $1709 w AARP discount.
Side story was interesting (to me at least): originally tried to book this online using the AARP/BA link, but it was down. Called AARP but agent couldn't figure it out at all, at least from PDX, my origin point, ostensibly because it's Y only from PDX-SEA. Next called BA. Nice agent was aware of the AARP discount but had to send it to rate desk to book (rarely a good sign) since this is an online fare only. Sure enough, 3 days later, got a call from the agent telling me that AARP discount could not be applied to an I fare. So, was prepared to go with the $2200 undiscounted fare from PDX which still wasn't bad.
By last night, however, the AARP/BA link was working again. Still couldn't get the fare to price to/from PDX, but was able to get the $1700 fare out of SEA to work and booked it. Another $145 for the PDX-SEA shuttle, but still damn good net price.
Wonder if the demise of this fare will be transient, yet again, or whether the battle is over for the foreseeable future. I'm OK: got the dining capitals of W. Europe--Bilbao (San Sebastian), Bologna, Lyon--all lined up over Memorial Day, July 4 and Labor Day long weekends, respectively, in 2015.
--mcz
Side story was interesting (to me at least): originally tried to book this online using the AARP/BA link, but it was down. Called AARP but agent couldn't figure it out at all, at least from PDX, my origin point, ostensibly because it's Y only from PDX-SEA. Next called BA. Nice agent was aware of the AARP discount but had to send it to rate desk to book (rarely a good sign) since this is an online fare only. Sure enough, 3 days later, got a call from the agent telling me that AARP discount could not be applied to an I fare. So, was prepared to go with the $2200 undiscounted fare from PDX which still wasn't bad.
By last night, however, the AARP/BA link was working again. Still couldn't get the fare to price to/from PDX, but was able to get the $1700 fare out of SEA to work and booked it. Another $145 for the PDX-SEA shuttle, but still damn good net price.
Wonder if the demise of this fare will be transient, yet again, or whether the battle is over for the foreseeable future. I'm OK: got the dining capitals of W. Europe--Bilbao (San Sebastian), Bologna, Lyon--all lined up over Memorial Day, July 4 and Labor Day long weekends, respectively, in 2015.
--mcz
Last edited by mczlaw; Oct 20, 2014 at 1:48 pm
Oct 20, 2014, 1:33 pm
#3200
Join Date: May 2003
Programs: UA1k; Bonvoy Titanium; Hilton Gold; IHG Gold; AA Plat Pro
Posts: 1,794
Was able to book SEA-LHR-LYS return last night on BA CW for a/i price of $1709 w AARP discount.
Side story was interesting (to me at least): originally tried to book this online using the AARP/BA link, but it was down. Called AARP but agent couldn't figure it out at all, at least from PDX, my origin point ostensibly because it's Y only from PDX-SEA. Next called BA. Nice agent was aware of the AARP discount but had to send it to rate desk to book (rarely a good sign) since this is an online fare only. Sure enough, 3 days later, got a call from the agent telling me that AARP discount could not be applied to an I fare. So, was prepared to go with the $2200 undiscounted fare from PDX which still wasn't bad.
By last night, however, the AARP/BA link was working again. Still couldn't get the fare to price to/from PDX, but was able to get the $1700 fare out of SEA to work and booked it. Another $145 for the PDX-SEA shuttle, but still damn good net price.
Wonder if the demise of this fare will be transient, yet again, or whether the battle is over for the foreseeable future. I'm OK: got the dining capitals of W. Europe--Bilbao (San Sebastian), Bologna, Lyon--all lined up over Memorial Day, July 4 and Labor Day long weekends, respectively, in 2015.
--mcz
Side story was interesting (to me at least): originally tried to book this online using the AARP/BA link, but it was down. Called AARP but agent couldn't figure it out at all, at least from PDX, my origin point ostensibly because it's Y only from PDX-SEA. Next called BA. Nice agent was aware of the AARP discount but had to send it to rate desk to book (rarely a good sign) since this is an online fare only. Sure enough, 3 days later, got a call from the agent telling me that AARP discount could not be applied to an I fare. So, was prepared to go with the $2200 undiscounted fare from PDX which still wasn't bad.
By last night, however, the AARP/BA link was working again. Still couldn't get the fare to price to/from PDX, but was able to get the $1700 fare out of SEA to work and booked it. Another $145 for the PDX-SEA shuttle, but still damn good net price.
Wonder if the demise of this fare will be transient, yet again, or whether the battle is over for the foreseeable future. I'm OK: got the dining capitals of W. Europe--Bilbao (San Sebastian), Bologna, Lyon--all lined up over Memorial Day, July 4 and Labor Day long weekends, respectively, in 2015.
--mcz
I certainly hope the fares come back...
Oct 20, 2014, 1:40 pm
#3201
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever
Posts: 6,367
There are a couple of similar fares depending on your travel window:
Carrier UX IPROUS NYC to BCN
seasonal restrictions: PERMITTED 22NOV 14 THROUGH 28NOV 14 OR 15DEC 14 THROUGH 07JAN 15. Prices out to 1802.80 and must be booked by 24OCT 14.
Carrier UX IPROUS NYC to BCN without seasonal restrictions prices to $1,969.80 and must be booked by 15NOV 14. TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 17DEC 14 THROUGH 10JAN 15 OR 27MAR 15 THROUGH 05APR 15. VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 18JUN 15. (but I can only find thru mid-April on outbound)
Both fares have this restriction:
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN
OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Carrier UX IPROUS NYC to BCN
seasonal restrictions: PERMITTED 22NOV 14 THROUGH 28NOV 14 OR 15DEC 14 THROUGH 07JAN 15. Prices out to 1802.80 and must be booked by 24OCT 14.
Carrier UX IPROUS NYC to BCN without seasonal restrictions prices to $1,969.80 and must be booked by 15NOV 14. TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 17DEC 14 THROUGH 10JAN 15 OR 27MAR 15 THROUGH 05APR 15. VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 18JUN 15. (but I can only find thru mid-April on outbound)
Both fares have this restriction:
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN
OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Oct 20, 2014, 5:57 pm
#3203
Formerly richh1833
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SYD
Programs: QF P1, BA GGL, AS GMVP
Posts: 480
Found the 476~ one but I can't seem to find it on an OTA.
Oct 20, 2014, 8:00 pm
#3205
Formerly richh1833
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SYD
Programs: QF P1, BA GGL, AS GMVP
Posts: 480
Oct 20, 2014, 8:01 pm
#3206
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: DL PM, MR Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 10,130
Why would you bother with this unless it's in line with the Y price? A3 J class is normal inter-Europe J (aka blocked middle seat). I flew them on a J/F award earlier this year and while they served decent food up in J, I wouldn't pay much of a premium to fly J vs. Y
Oct 20, 2014, 8:57 pm
#3207
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA Plt HertzpresC Avisfirst
Posts: 119
Why would you bother with this unless it's in line with the Y price? A3 J class is normal inter-Europe J (aka blocked middle seat). I flew them on a J/F award earlier this year and while they served decent food up in J, I wouldn't pay much of a premium to fly J vs. Y
When I landed in fra and thought I had regular J all the way thru to vce I was in for a surprise. I thought this was Air Canada's idea. I think that J product is just ridiculous.
Oct 20, 2014, 9:23 pm
#3208
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SoCal (ONT), PVD/BOS, JAX, RSW
Programs: AA/US PlatPro & 1.05MM, DL Plat (challenge), UA dirt
Posts: 3,189
However, AS/DL/AZ is trying to start something in the summer:
Last edited by tcook052; Oct 20, 2014 at 9:48 pm
Oct 20, 2014, 10:14 pm
#3209
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: US CP, MR Plat, SPG Plat, HHonors Gold, National X
Posts: 917
According to the New Miles & Bonus Program of A3, international Z gives 150% with a 1600 miles minimum per segment.
Oct 20, 2014, 10:38 pm
#3210
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 563
In addition to the fare mentioned in post 3208, I'm seeing some low fares from LAX on ITA tonight to the usual recent suspects, for example LAX-BIO and LAX-MAN sub-$2K on KLM and LAX-BCN sub-$1.7K on a combination of Delta and either AZ or AF.
Sample dates June 27-July 11, I did not follow through on any airline website though.
Sample dates June 27-July 11, I did not follow through on any airline website though.