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Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
Double-check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTAs confuse booking classes on some airlines.
Post as much detail as possible about the First/Business fare, including: fare class, fare basis, one-way/round-trip, sales channel, sample dates and total price (including taxes).
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The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
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Last but not least: don't call the airline!

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Oct 16, 2014, 4:44 am

#3121

SQueeze

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Good Deal Premium Fares 2014

I think it's gone.
About an hour out there
Shortest error fare ever?

Oct 16, 2014, 4:44 am

#3122

Docterror

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Quote:

Originally Posted by irishguy28

Thanks, Granite...this was too good a deal to walk away from, I just booked it.

How and where did you book this? The Etihad website is showing AED 20K approx return at best. I checked almost all dates from now till June.

So, its gone now!

Oct 16, 2014, 4:44 am

#3123

irishguy28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tango3

Seems to have gone.

Indeed...back up at AED19,000//€4,000 again.

Oct 16, 2014, 4:45 am

#3124

irishguy28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Docterror

How and where did you book this? The Etihad website is showing AED 20K approx return at best. I checked almost all dates from now till June

Booked on the airline's own website (and was available on most/all OTAs).

But the fare has been corrected now.

Oct 16, 2014, 4:47 am

#3125

Docterror

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Quote:

Originally Posted by irishguy28

Booked on the airline's own website (and was available on most/all OTAs).

But the fare has been corrected now.

Lucky you. I wasn't as quick a gunslinger as you, I guess.

Oct 16, 2014, 4:58 am

#3126

YoungSoloTraveler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by irishguy28

Thanks, Granite...this was too good a deal to walk away from, I just booked it.

Would have booked too, but getting to AUH was a pain. Actually hit ticketed, but then AMEX denied the initial transaction for "Fraud review". I take it a sign not to book.

Oct 16, 2014, 6:03 am

#3127

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just too late to saw this fare

Oct 16, 2014, 12:07 pm

#3128

Jaenks

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Booked through Etihad website in the morning(found through Finnish forum) and chose the seats a 20 minutes ago.

Oct 16, 2014, 12:16 pm

#3129

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Z fare (business) JFK-BCN DL/KLM Nov 23-Nov 27 2014 $1803 a.i

look for these $1803 r/t business class around thanksgiving week-returning up to Dec 3 as per my checking- I did not look further bcs I'm already in Europe this thxgiving. Some other FTs might be able to take adv.

Bookable on KLM website.

PAsted some info from KLM:

Your flight
✈New York - Barcelona
Sun 23 Nov 14
19:27
New York, John F. Kennedy International, New York, USA
KL 6094, Boeing 767-400ER Operated by: Delta Air Lines
+109:15
Barcelona, Barcelona, Spain
Total travel time: 7h48

Barcelona - New York
Thu 27 Nov 14
11:05
Barcelona, Barcelona, Spain
KL 6095, Boeing 767-400ER Operated by: Delta Air Lines
13:59
New York, John F. Kennedy International, New York, USA
Total travel time: 8h54

Ticket conditions
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Business Class Flexible
Enjoy the premium service of Business Class at attractive rates
Return: from New York to Barcelona
Which conditions apply when I select Business Class Flexible?
Change
Change is permitted at a fee of USD 450.00. If you change your ticket, the price of the ticket may change due to tax recalculation and fare availability.
You will pay an administration fee of USD 20 when you change your ticket via telephone. If you change your ticket online via My Trip no administration fee will be charged.
Cancel
Cancellation is not permitted
You will pay an administration fee of USD 27.
No-show
No-show is permitted without having to pay a penalty fee
Minimum stay
A minimum stay of 3 day(s) applies.
Maximum stay
A maximum stay of 10 day(s) applies
Travel class
You will be travelling in Z class with fare basis ZP63US.
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Oct 16, 2014, 12:32 pm

#3130

skunker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by macdonaldj2

It was around for longer than you know

Looks like it was created on 10/2 and effective 10/3. How did two people find it at the same time? Where was it posted first?

If anyone needs the fare rules, let me know.

Oct 16, 2014, 1:30 pm

#3131

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STL-ATL-CHI $347 on DL

10.6c/MQM, books into G

works to both MDW and ORD

sample 11/15/14 same day turn

Oct 16, 2014, 2:10 pm

#3132

skunker

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I've updated the wiki to include a note about EY Z fares. I doubt anyone will read it before posting the next EY Z fare.

Oct 16, 2014, 4:30 pm

#3133

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darmajaya

Looks like OW has matched. If you use $400 AARP discount when booking J/F using BA's site, you can get JFK-BCN nonstop RT for $1403 (on AA metal).

You can fly on BA metal JFK/EWR-LHR-BCN also -- a little bit more outright but if you use 10% BA Visa code, the total is $1343.

BA1556
American Airlines | Business
Outbound
22 Nov 2014
17:30
John F Kennedy (NY) (New York)
23 Nov 2014
07:10
Barcelona

BA1557
American Airlines | Business
Inbound
29 Nov 2014
10:00
Barcelona
29 Nov 2014
13:15
John F Kennedy (NY) (New York)

Price quote breakdown

Passenger Fare
(per person) Taxes, fees, charges and surcharges (per person) Total
(Price not guaranteed)
1 adult USD 455.00 USD 947.89 USD 1,402.89

Oct 16, 2014, 4:44 pm

#3134

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusdude

Looks like OW has matched. If you use $400 AARP discount when booking J/F using BA's site, you can get JFK-BCN nonstop RT for $1403 (on AA metal).

I think it was posted yesterday that the AARP discount has expired

Per the page 10/14/14 was the last day to book a trip with the discount.

Oct 16, 2014, 4:57 pm

#3135

Rusdude

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nissan720

I think it was posted yesterday that the AARP discount has expired

Per the page 10/14/14 was the last day to book a trip with the discount.

I know about the Oct. 14 expiration date however that's the price it showed to me online a few minutes ago. I got all the way to the payment page without price changing -- would it fail at the ticketing process?

P.S. FYI, if the seat map on AA.com is correct, AA66/A67 has the new business class (1-2-1).

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