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Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
Double-check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTAs confuse booking classes on some airlines.
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The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Sep 23, 2014, 2:47 pm

#2746

Far From Home

Join Date: Jan 2010

Location: LAX

Posts: 177

UA: LAX-DEN-PDX / PDX-DEN-LAX

First (A) as low as $457.20 = 8.2cpqm

5,562 PQM

Sample dates 10/9-10/13

Prices via DEN seem to be booking at the same price as connecting through SFO.

Sep 23, 2014, 3:18 pm

#2747

Docterror

Join Date: Sep 2014

Posts: 20

Saudi Airlines

Don't know if this has been posted before, but there is MXP-JED-JNB return in business class for various dates from 884 GBP in Saudi Airlines website

Sep 23, 2014, 3:24 pm

#2748

Calchas

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Mar 2013

Location: London

Posts: 17,007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Docterror

Don't know if this has been posted before, but there is MXP-JED-JNB return in business class for various dates from 884 GBP in Saudi Airlines website

Welcome to Flyertalk Docterror

. Thanks for the fare—sounds pretty good to me. If you can provide us with some sample dates, then we can have a closer look, find out the fare rules and the availability.

Please do stick around and we look forward to your next find!

Sep 23, 2014, 4:00 pm

#2749

AHO

Join Date: Sep 2001

Location: Sweden

Posts: 2,044

[Business class] Tokyo-Europa R/T, Etihad Airways, 1.565 USD / 1.220 EUR incl. taxes

Etihad Airways Business class campaign out of Tokyo.
Fare from Nagoya is + 30.000 JPY.
Buy latest 2014-SEP-30
The fare is bookable on Etihad Airways Japanese website.
http://www.etihad.com/ja-jp/deals/de...motion_id=6144

[Business class] Tokyo-Europa R/T, Etihad Airways, 1.565 USD / 1.220 EUR incl. taxes

NRT-some EY destinations in Europe R/T
Airlines: Etihad Airways (EY)
Cabin class: Business
Booking class: Z
Fare basis: ZHOTJP
Fare: 120.000 JPY + tax ca 50.000 JPY and up, total from ca 1.565 USD / 1.220 EUR incl. taxes
The fare is available to following cities.

Amsterdam
Berlin
Brussels
Dublin
Düsseldorf
Frankfurt
Genèva
Istanbul
Moscow
München
Manchester
Milano
Roma
Wien

Advance purchase: 1 day
Min/Max stay: 2 days / 1 month
Buy latest: 2014-SEP-30
Valid for departure: --
Stopover: Up to 2 free stopover are allowed in Beijing/Abu Dhabi. One in each direction.
Child discount: 15% discount from the base fare
Refund: No
Rebooking: No
Routing e.g. Tokyo-(EY)-Abu Dhabi-(EY)-some EY destinations in Europe

Current Etihad Pearl Class (on some plane model)

(Photo: Etihad Airways Media Centre)

Sample dates*:
* ITA Matrix shows Etihad Z class as First class, but Etihad Z klass is deeply discounted Business class.

For more informaiton:
[Business class] Tokyo-Europa T/R, Etihad Airways, 11.200 SEK inkl. skatter | BusinessClass.se forum | 250.000 inlägg om resor

There are also fares to Indian Subcontinent, Middle East and Africa. These fares are about 50.000-100.000 JPY higher than the fare to Europe.

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Sep 23, 2014, 5:22 pm

#2750

silentbob1974

Join Date: Feb 2010

Posts: 498

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far From Home

UA: LAX-DEN-PDX / PDX-DEN-LAX

First (A) as low as $457.20 = 8.2cpqm

5,562 PQM

Sample dates 10/9-10/13

Prices via DEN seem to be booking at the same price as connecting through SFO.

These seem to be UP-fares, and not A. I know that doesn't necessarily matter for crediting to UA but it may for other *A FFP.

Sep 23, 2014, 5:26 pm

#2751

Docterror

Join Date: Sep 2014

Posts: 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calchas

Welcome to Flyertalk Docterror

Thanks for the warm welcome, Calchas.

We booked ourselves from 1st March 2015 and returning on 14th March. There are loads of other possibilities as well. Haven't looked at them all as these were the dates that we were interested in. Cost us 1746 GBP return. I am not yet good at calculating rate/mile, fare details etc, but That has to be a good rate.

Last edited by Docterror; Sep 23, 2014 at 5:43 pm

Sep 24, 2014, 10:13 am

#2752

flyingmusicianlax

Join Date: Dec 2008

Location: WAS, LAX

Programs: AS 100K

Posts: 1,330

Not a great price for this thread, but a pretty reasonable price for SQ J:

JFK - FRA R/T $2677 through 1/31/15. Book by 10/25/14. Fare code DMSP35

Sep 24, 2014, 6:17 pm

#2753

CokeandTaco

Join Date: Sep 2010

Posts: 2,233

AA: BOS-BOG/MDE ~$817ai (A,I)

Nov 10-11 BOS-MIA-BOG-MIA-BOS ~$817ai (A,I) (5542mi ~15cpm)

-TO COLOMBIA - PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 02JAN OR 17JAN THROUGH 17APR OR 23APR THROUGH 15DEC OR 25DEC THROUGH 31DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
-FROM COLOMBIA - PERMITTED 20JAN THROUGH 09APR OR 14APR THROUGH 24DEC FOR EACH GATEWAY DEPARTURE.
-21 Day Advance.
-Through End Of Schedule.
-THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA INTERNATIONAL SECTORS IN MIA.

More miles/eqp available with improved routing....

Sep 24, 2014, 9:19 pm

#2754

FlyIgglesFly

Join Date: Nov 2009

Location: Trenton, NJ (PHL, EWR)

Programs: A3 Gold, BA Bronze

Posts: 1,633

Quote:

Originally Posted by CokeandTaco

$935 a/i through DFW. 8,000 base miles r/t.

Sep 24, 2014, 9:37 pm

#2755

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,034

SkyTeam seems to have refiled some more US>HEL/MAD/BCN deals. Though this time from the east coast.

BOS-HEL $2000ai
BOS-MAD $2087ai
MIA-MAD $2087ai

Sep 24, 2014, 9:45 pm

#2756

SFflyer123

Join Date: Oct 2008

Location: SFO

Programs: UA 1K

Posts: 4,449

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingmusicianlax

Not a great price for this thread, but a pretty reasonable price for SQ J:

JFK - FRA R/T $2677 through 1/31/15. Book by 10/25/14. Fare code DMSP35

This is very nice, but I'm only seeing $3400 for this. I see $2975 on LH and UA, but $3400 on SQ.

Sep 25, 2014, 1:21 am

#2757

unavaca

Join Date: Jun 2007

Location: YVR SFO

Programs: UA G

Posts: 4,866

Quote:

Originally Posted by SFflyer123

This is very nice, but I'm only seeing $3400 for this. I see $2975 on LH and UA, but $3400 on SQ.

What dates are you searching for? Valid 11/26-1/31, Mon-Thu departures only. Nonstop on SQ25/26 only.

Sep 25, 2014, 6:32 am

#2758

Jwb13c

Join Date: Sep 2014

Posts: 9

Hi, I'm new.

Looks like Sky Team is posting more deals from the east coast. By searching KLM and Air France, I am seeing fares between Boston, Miami, and Orlando with Helsinki and Madrid.

BOS-HEL $2059
MIA-HEL $2578
BOS-MAD $2900
MIA-MAD $2728
MCO-MAD $2802

Sep 25, 2014, 8:08 am

#2759

Throw Down Your Leavy Screens

Join Date: Feb 2011

Location: CLT

Programs: DL Medialia Platina

Posts: 770

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jwb13c

Also available from CLT/RDU for 6-7 nights around Thanksgiving/early December:
$2080+ to BCN
$2211+ to MAD

Routing code used on ITA was /alliance skyteam; f bc=z

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Sep 25, 2014, 9:04 am

#2760

Pat89339

Moderator: Mileage Run, United Airlines; FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: The City/Honolulu

Programs: UA 3MM; Hyatt Glob*****; Hilton Diamond

Posts: 14,473

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jwb13c

Welcome to FlyerTalk Jwb13c