Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm
Last edit by: skunker
- Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
- Double-check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTAs confuse booking classes on some airlines.
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- Last but not least: don't call the airline!
Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.
Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html
List of known, active deals:
JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return
BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html
Good Deal Premium Fares 2014
Aug 21, 2014, 4:35 am
#2341
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Not sure I have seen this posted, but 9W also has some reasonable one-way fares to USA, like BKK-JFK for $1450-$1550 on vayama. Routing is BKK-BOM/DEL-AUH-JFK where one can choose 9W-coded EY-operated flights for India-JFK segments. Fare construction is BKK-BOM/DEL + BOM/DEL-JFK.
Aug 21, 2014, 5:34 am
#2342
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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from San Francisco to Montego Bay $1,006
$1,006 - First Class
Departure from: San Francisco (SFO)
Destination: Montego Bay (MBJ)
Stops: Charlotte (CLT), Phoenix (PHX)
Airline(s): US Airways
Sample dates: Jan 31 – Feb 1
Total miles flown: 7,045 miles
Fare class: First (A)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 14
Departure from: San Francisco (SFO)
Destination: Montego Bay (MBJ)
Stops: Charlotte (CLT), Phoenix (PHX)
Airline(s): US Airways
Sample dates: Jan 31 – Feb 1
Total miles flown: 7,045 miles
Fare class: First (A)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 14
Aug 21, 2014, 7:17 am
#2344
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$771 7 tickets at this price
Depart: 2:10 p.m. Tue., Jan. 6, 2015 Seattle, WA (SEA)
Arrive: 7:54 p.m. Tue., Jan. 6, 2015 Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time: 3 hr 44 mn Distance: 1,720 miles Flight: UA961
Fare Class: United First (A)
But I do not know as a fact how LH would credit this. It would seem that there is a case for A/F ....
But there are a few factors to consider:
Since LH gives status for two years, and is now on a calendar year basis, you can get just about 3 years of status for these runs - the two years they give you, plus the remainder of the year in which you qualify.
LH miles now expire in 3 years. There are only two ways to prolong them, a credit card with a monthly usage or status (which then resets the drop date to 3 years after your status expires)
If you have a load of LH miles ready to fall off, this is a relatively cheap 6 year postponement.
The value of 39000 RDM which you would accrue in getting there. At 1.5 cpm ....
Aug 21, 2014, 7:28 am
#2345
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 498
I tried this one on United.com, and got this (partial):
$771 7 tickets at this price
Depart: 2:10 p.m. Tue., Jan. 6, 2015 Seattle, WA (SEA)
Arrive: 7:54 p.m. Tue., Jan. 6, 2015 Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time: 3 hr 44 mn Distance: 1,720 miles Flight: UA961
Fare Class: United First (A)
But I do not know as a fact how LH would credit this. It would seem that there is a case for A/F ....
$771 7 tickets at this price
Depart: 2:10 p.m. Tue., Jan. 6, 2015 Seattle, WA (SEA)
Arrive: 7:54 p.m. Tue., Jan. 6, 2015 Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time: 3 hr 44 mn Distance: 1,720 miles Flight: UA961
Fare Class: United First (A)
But I do not know as a fact how LH would credit this. It would seem that there is a case for A/F ....
See this thread for more discussion.
If it were clear how LH credits these types of flights, I'd seriously consider jumping to M&M once MileagePlus goes revenue-based next year. I asked about this in the LH newbie thread two months ago but no one ever responded one way or the other.
Aug 21, 2014, 12:22 pm
#2346
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I understand that these flights are marketed as A and book into the first-class cabin, but when you click on the fare rules, it is usually not an A fare basis but one in coach like V, U, W, etc.
See this thread for more discussion.
If it were clear how LH credits these types of flights, I'd seriously consider jumping to M&M once MileagePlus goes revenue-based next year. I asked about this in the LH newbie thread two months ago but no one ever responded one way or the other.
See this thread for more discussion.
If it were clear how LH credits these types of flights, I'd seriously consider jumping to M&M once MileagePlus goes revenue-based next year. I asked about this in the LH newbie thread two months ago but no one ever responded one way or the other.
LFA14AHN
Great.
L, followed by F, followed by A.
Clears it right up ....
Aug 21, 2014, 1:09 pm
#2347
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Aug 21, 2014, 1:20 pm
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Just booked BRU-DOH-DXB return for a shade under Ł1200 in J. Long haul segments on the Dreamliner.
Aug 21, 2014, 1:25 pm
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Aug 21, 2014, 1:28 pm
#2350
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Programs: Lots of faux metal
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Aug 21, 2014, 3:45 pm
#2352
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Posts: 362
I cannot speak to M&M, but in my experience, UP fares are always credited by booking class / RBD - in this case A. Please note, I'm referring to fares sold into Business or First, not any economy fare that is then upgraded via an "instant upgrade" status mechanism.
Here is the booking class table for this fare:
22 SEANYC 07NOV14 UA USD 730.00 LFA14AHN STAY- V/-- BK-A
FARE CLS EXPLANATION BOOK CODES
-------- ---------------------- ----------
LFA14AHN FARE BY RULE A
NO BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS FOR CARRIER - USE PRIME
Last edited by Cohiba; Aug 21, 2014 at 3:50 pm
Aug 21, 2014, 4:59 pm
#2353
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$1,006 - First Class
Departure from: San Francisco (SFO)
Destination: Montego Bay (MBJ)
Stops: Charlotte (CLT), Phoenix (PHX)
Airline(s): US Airways
Sample dates: Jan 31 – Feb 1
Total miles flown: 7,045 miles
Fare class: First (A)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 14
Departure from: San Francisco (SFO)
Destination: Montego Bay (MBJ)
Stops: Charlotte (CLT), Phoenix (PHX)
Airline(s): US Airways
Sample dates: Jan 31 – Feb 1
Total miles flown: 7,045 miles
Fare class: First (A)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 14
Aug 21, 2014, 5:15 pm
#2354
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Location: Anywhere warm
Posts: 33,732
$1,006 - First Class
Departure from: San Francisco (SFO)
Destination: Montego Bay (MBJ)
Stops: Charlotte (CLT), Phoenix (PHX)
Airline(s): US Airways
Sample dates: Jan 31 – Feb 1
Total miles flown: 7,045 miles
Fare class: First (A)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 14
Departure from: San Francisco (SFO)
Destination: Montego Bay (MBJ)
Stops: Charlotte (CLT), Phoenix (PHX)
Airline(s): US Airways
Sample dates: Jan 31 – Feb 1
Total miles flown: 7,045 miles
Fare class: First (A)
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 14
Aug 22, 2014, 1:41 am
#2355
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