Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm
Last edit by: skunker
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.
Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html
List of known, active deals:
JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return
BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html
Good Deal Premium Fares 2014
Aug 12, 2014, 6:09 pm
#2281
Join Date: Jul 2014
Programs: TG, SQ, CX
Posts: 11
An alternative is CX BKK-CMB direct $460 RT A.I.
Booked myself 9W BKK-CMB via BOM in J (P booking class) USD 430 ai RT in October. The downside is the long layover in BOM on the way back but the price is great and I still remember my 9W BOM-BKK flight 5 years ago which I really liked (that was an op up). I plan to stay a day at a 5 stars hotel near the airport on the way back.
Cheaper than direct economy or close to that.
Cheaper than direct economy or close to that.
Normal 12-month maximum tickets available as well, a bit more.
Hope this is useful to you.
Aug 12, 2014, 10:19 pm
#2282
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: AA Platinum Pro, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Exploralist, Marriot Silver
Posts: 2,065
Aug 12, 2014, 11:18 pm
#2283
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver
Posts: 2,488
But the schedule is not that great, even a day near BOM is a better alternative for me than extra days in Sri Lanka (I am just transiting)
I shall add that 9W fare is free date change also. Refund is THB 2,000, no show 1,500. At the same time CX fare is non refundable and changes are THB 2,500 while no show is THB 5,000.
Aug 13, 2014, 2:02 am
#2284
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Singapore
Programs: SQ KF Gold, HHonors Gold, SPG Plat
Posts: 300
Dont flame me if this is nothing new, but I'm always searching for good J fares out of SIN and this must be one of the worst places on this earth to look for that.
Anyway, today I see fares of ~1500usd with AI flying SIN-FRA-SIN in J on their new 787. on all four segments. Here a sample:
Singapore (SIN) to Frankfurt (FRA) - Fri, Aug 29
Air India Limited Singapore (SIN) to Delhi (DEL) - Fri, Aug 29
Air India Limited 381 Dep: 8:25AM Arr: 11:35AM 5h 40m Boeing 787 Business (J)
Layover in DEL 2h 10m
Air India Limited Delhi (DEL) to Frankfurt (FRA) - Fri, Aug 29
Air India Limited 121 Dep: 1:45PM Arr: 6:40PM 8h 25m Boeing 787 Business (J)
Frankfurt (FRA) to Singapore (SIN) - Wed, Sep 10
Air India Limited Frankfurt (FRA) to Delhi (DEL) - Wed, Sep 10
Air India Limited 120 Dep: 9:15PM Arr: 8:20AM 7h 35m Boeing 787 Business (J)
Layover in DEL Thu, Sep 11 15h 10m
Air India Limited Delhi (DEL) to Singapore (SIN) - Thu, Sep 11
Air India Limited 380 Dep: 11:30PM Arr: 7:20AM 5h 20m Boeing 787 Business (J)
Fri, Sep 12
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) 1,885.70 x 1 (1 adult) - That's in SGD.
That to me is hardly ever seen! (And I get to credit to TK)
Anyway, today I see fares of ~1500usd with AI flying SIN-FRA-SIN in J on their new 787. on all four segments. Here a sample:
Singapore (SIN) to Frankfurt (FRA) - Fri, Aug 29
Air India Limited Singapore (SIN) to Delhi (DEL) - Fri, Aug 29
Air India Limited 381 Dep: 8:25AM Arr: 11:35AM 5h 40m Boeing 787 Business (J)
Layover in DEL 2h 10m
Air India Limited Delhi (DEL) to Frankfurt (FRA) - Fri, Aug 29
Air India Limited 121 Dep: 1:45PM Arr: 6:40PM 8h 25m Boeing 787 Business (J)
Frankfurt (FRA) to Singapore (SIN) - Wed, Sep 10
Air India Limited Frankfurt (FRA) to Delhi (DEL) - Wed, Sep 10
Air India Limited 120 Dep: 9:15PM Arr: 8:20AM 7h 35m Boeing 787 Business (J)
Layover in DEL Thu, Sep 11 15h 10m
Air India Limited Delhi (DEL) to Singapore (SIN) - Thu, Sep 11
Air India Limited 380 Dep: 11:30PM Arr: 7:20AM 5h 20m Boeing 787 Business (J)
Fri, Sep 12
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) 1,885.70 x 1 (1 adult) - That's in SGD.
That to me is hardly ever seen! (And I get to credit to TK)
Aug 13, 2014, 7:55 am
#2286
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN, BA Gold, HH Gold, CC Gold, AMB
Posts: 120
ATH-DXB-LAX EK First Class RT 4114 EUR
Last edited by tcook052; Aug 14, 2014 at 7:01 am
Aug 13, 2014, 10:04 am
#2287
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: MSP
Programs: HHonors Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 107
AA ORD-ICN $2754 J - 22842 EQP
With CoS bonus, it comes out to $0.12/EQP
Flight Depart Arrive
American Airlines
2301
WiFi Available
Chicago (ORD)
November 12, 2014 06:00 AM
Travel Time : 2 h 20 m
Cabin Class : First
Seat : unassigned
Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW)
November 12, 2014 08:20 AM
Booking Code : A
Plane Type : M80
American Airlines
281
Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW)
November 12, 2014 10:15 AM
Travel Time : 14 h 45 m
Cabin Class : Business
Seat : unassigned
Seoul (ICN)
November 13, 2014 04:00 PM
Booking Code : I
Plane Type : 777
Flight Depart Arrive
American Airlines
280
Seoul (ICN)
November 17, 2014 06:00 PM
Travel Time : 12 h 55 m
Cabin Class : Business
Seat : unassigned
Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW)
November 17, 2014 03:55 PM
Booking Code : I
Plane Type : 777
American Airlines
2329
WiFi Available
Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW)
November 17, 2014 06:00 PM
Travel Time : 2 h 15 m
Cabin Class : First
Seat : unassigned
Chicago (ORD)
November 17, 2014 08:15 PM
Booking Code : A
Plane Type : M80
With CoS bonus, it comes out to $0.12/EQP
Flight Depart Arrive
American Airlines
2301
WiFi Available
Chicago (ORD)
November 12, 2014 06:00 AM
Travel Time : 2 h 20 m
Cabin Class : First
Seat : unassigned
Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW)
November 12, 2014 08:20 AM
Booking Code : A
Plane Type : M80
American Airlines
281
Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW)
November 12, 2014 10:15 AM
Travel Time : 14 h 45 m
Cabin Class : Business
Seat : unassigned
Seoul (ICN)
November 13, 2014 04:00 PM
Booking Code : I
Plane Type : 777
Flight Depart Arrive
American Airlines
280
Seoul (ICN)
November 17, 2014 06:00 PM
Travel Time : 12 h 55 m
Cabin Class : Business
Seat : unassigned
Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW)
November 17, 2014 03:55 PM
Booking Code : I
Plane Type : 777
American Airlines
2329
WiFi Available
Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW)
November 17, 2014 06:00 PM
Travel Time : 2 h 15 m
Cabin Class : First
Seat : unassigned
Chicago (ORD)
November 17, 2014 08:15 PM
Booking Code : A
Plane Type : M80
Aug 13, 2014, 12:26 pm
#2288
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,995
This one has been around for a while, but, good to post again.
Around $2500 +/- from LAX
Around $2900 +/- from PBI/FLL/MIA
Around $2450 +/- from DFW
Lots of other cities in the same $2500-$3000 price range.
Several days first class can be had for about $500 more each way, bringing the total to $3500 - $4000 +/- in First.
Weekends are a little more. Monday - Thursday seems to provide the best fares.
Not as good as earlier this year's First Class to ICN, but still not bad as a jumping off point to elsewhere in Asia.
(Note: This is the ooooold 777-200 with actual DC cigar type power. IFE are on demand, but, small.)
Around $2500 +/- from LAX
Around $2900 +/- from PBI/FLL/MIA
Around $2450 +/- from DFW
Lots of other cities in the same $2500-$3000 price range.
Several days first class can be had for about $500 more each way, bringing the total to $3500 - $4000 +/- in First.
Weekends are a little more. Monday - Thursday seems to provide the best fares.
Not as good as earlier this year's First Class to ICN, but still not bad as a jumping off point to elsewhere in Asia.
(Note: This is the ooooold 777-200 with actual DC cigar type power. IFE are on demand, but, small.)
Last edited by Global321; Aug 13, 2014 at 12:28 pm Reason: Added comment about First Class
Aug 13, 2014, 12:39 pm
#2289
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Posts: 10,820
This one has been around for a while, but, good to post again.
Around $2500 +/- from LAX
Around $2900 +/- from PBI/FLL/MIA
Around $2450 +/- from DFW
Lots of other cities in the same $2500-$3000 price range.
Several days first class can be had for about $500 more each way, bringing the total to $3500 - $4000 +/- in First.
Weekends are a little more. Monday - Thursday seems to provide the best fares.
Not as good as earlier this year's First Class to ICN, but still not bad as a jumping off point to elsewhere in Asia.
(Note: This is the ooooold 777-200 with actual DC cigar type power. IFE are on demand, but, small.)
Around $2500 +/- from LAX
Around $2900 +/- from PBI/FLL/MIA
Around $2450 +/- from DFW
Lots of other cities in the same $2500-$3000 price range.
Several days first class can be had for about $500 more each way, bringing the total to $3500 - $4000 +/- in First.
Weekends are a little more. Monday - Thursday seems to provide the best fares.
Not as good as earlier this year's First Class to ICN, but still not bad as a jumping off point to elsewhere in Asia.
(Note: This is the ooooold 777-200 with actual DC cigar type power. IFE are on demand, but, small.)
Indeed, a good deal. Wish I'd known about it sooner, but thanks to both of you for the info.
Aug 13, 2014, 12:48 pm
#2291
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Aug 13, 2014, 1:38 pm
#2292
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: MSP
Programs: HHonors Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 107
Seems to be fare code KLX3Q4D1
Here are the highlights.
Seasonality PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 30APR OR 21AUG THROUGH 30NOV ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Day Time Application PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Advance Reservation Ticketing Restrictions Not Applicable
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY KE FLIGHT OPERATED BY CZ ANY KE FLIGHT OPERATED BY VN ANY OZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO/VIA HNL THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
Here are the highlights.
Seasonality PERMITTED 01JAN THROUGH 30APR OR 21AUG THROUGH 30NOV ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Day Time Application PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.
Advance Reservation Ticketing Restrictions Not Applicable
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY KE FLIGHT OPERATED BY CZ ANY KE FLIGHT OPERATED BY VN ANY OZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS. AND IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL FROM/TO/VIA HNL THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
Aug 13, 2014, 1:47 pm
#2293
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YYZ-TLV
Is the YYZ-TLV fare in J on DL for ~2000 gone? Are there any J fares to TLV from any city pairs for a reasonable price?
Aug 13, 2014, 11:54 pm
#2295
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: KRK
Programs: HHonors Diamond, IHG Spire, OZ Diamond
Posts: 238
there is nice JFK-UIO/GYE fare in XL bc I for 999$ if someone's interested, angled lie-flat though