Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm
Last edit by: skunker
- Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
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- The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
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Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.
Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html
List of known, active deals:
JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return
BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html
Good Deal Premium Fares 2014
Jul 15, 2014, 6:14 pm
#2011
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SoCal (ONT), PVD/BOS, JAX, RSW
Programs: AA/US PlatPro & 1.05MM, DL Plat (challenge), UA dirt
Posts: 3,189
You need to leave a whole day to do the connection from the domestic terminal in Manila to the international. Nightmare. And, its the same airport just different terminals. There is no free, inter-terminal transport. Technically there is but you might wait four hours or so for it and they will laugh at you when you ask when it is expected. You will end up paying an exorbitant amt in local terms for a ripoff taxi to drive in bumper to bumper traffic to the other terminal. It was only a couple of miles but it took way more than an hour. We had a 4 hr layover and barely made it. No interlining of bags. Lines for passport control and departure tax payment can get long. I will never do it again.
Jul 15, 2014, 6:20 pm
#2012
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: SEA
Programs: AF Plat a vie, EK Gold, SQ PPS
Posts: 758
Have a great diving trip, we really enjoyed ours until the transfer. And I added to my orig post that you should only take PR because the other two have lots of delays.
Jul 15, 2014, 7:04 pm
#2013
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SoCal (ONT), PVD/BOS, JAX, RSW
Programs: AA/US PlatPro & 1.05MM, DL Plat (challenge), UA dirt
Posts: 3,189
Thanks for jogging my memory of last year's CEB-MNL which was delayed by 90 minutes for no apparent reason, even though there were no mechanics on board, the weather was clear and the plane was sitting in front of us.
Jul 15, 2014, 7:06 pm
#2014
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: YUL
Programs: ✈ AC 1MM / S100K - SPG Lifetime Platinum = BONVoY Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,496
Jul 15, 2014, 7:15 pm
#2015
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,026
Yes, it was UA in F. Appears to still be valid for late December, early Jan. Appears to be valid from many Europe cities
Sample: Dec 24-Jan 1
IAD-EWR-LHR-EWR-IAD $3873
Dec 27-Jan 4
IAD-EWR-BRU-EWR-IAD $3528
Appears that you can get it for lower, but I didn't mess around with it too much..
Sample: Dec 24-Jan 1
IAD-EWR-LHR-EWR-IAD $3873
Dec 27-Jan 4
IAD-EWR-BRU-EWR-IAD $3528
Appears that you can get it for lower, but I didn't mess around with it too much..
Last edited by cfischer; Jul 15, 2014 at 7:30 pm
Jul 15, 2014, 10:48 pm
#2016
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,132
Not available every day, though, just on itinerary's where you fly MH71/70 btwn NRT-KUL.
Travel period: 3 Jul - 30 Nov. Booking period: 18 Jul, though may extend.
Last edited by crackjack; Jul 16, 2014 at 12:58 am Reason: Enrich mileage earning clarified.
Jul 16, 2014, 9:59 am
#2017
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NYC/CEB
Posts: 391
OP is taking NH and it will be departing from T3 and not T1. Assuming OP finds a domestic flight that lands in T3 (5J and most PAL express flights) he can avoid the transfer ordeal.
Jul 16, 2014, 10:29 am
#2018
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Gold (prev. Ex Plat for 10 years); DL Plat; UA Gold; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,338
Canadian Cities-->South Africa
Found fares on DL, KL, AF (Business) and BA (Club World) between Canada and South Africa - seems bookable through end of schedule. Cheapest combinations appear to be on KL/DL from YYC at $2400USD roundtrip (YYC-AMS-JNB). Also bookable on BA from YYC and YYZ to either JNB or CPT for between $2900-3100USD roundtrip.
*Many* creative routing options available like YYC-DFW-LHR-CPT on BA/AA, YYC-AMS-CDG-JNB, etc. Truth be told the most efficient routings are YYC-AMS-JNB on KL - 2 hour stop in either direction in AMS.
Of particular interest, BA is also transitioning its 747 service between LHR and CPT to eliminate F. Operated by old F 747s, but book a Club World and you can be seated there (I believe you have to be AA PLT or Oneworld Ruby for that privilege). Old BA F with Club World service.
Use any fare calendar (ITA Matrix works best, Orbitz too) to see best flight combinations. DL/KL/AF fares appear to allow stopovers in AMS/CDG. We're heading to Africa next year and had originally booked a hideous routing. For $2400 plus positioning flights to YYC, in our case, makes total sense.
For our dates KLM is using Airbus A330 equipment on YYC-AMS which is the old World Business Class. Routing options exist to get you on better equipment if you have the time and interest. Saw options YYC-MSP-AMS-JNB, etc.
Roundtrip only.
*Many* creative routing options available like YYC-DFW-LHR-CPT on BA/AA, YYC-AMS-CDG-JNB, etc. Truth be told the most efficient routings are YYC-AMS-JNB on KL - 2 hour stop in either direction in AMS.
Of particular interest, BA is also transitioning its 747 service between LHR and CPT to eliminate F. Operated by old F 747s, but book a Club World and you can be seated there (I believe you have to be AA PLT or Oneworld Ruby for that privilege). Old BA F with Club World service.
Use any fare calendar (ITA Matrix works best, Orbitz too) to see best flight combinations. DL/KL/AF fares appear to allow stopovers in AMS/CDG. We're heading to Africa next year and had originally booked a hideous routing. For $2400 plus positioning flights to YYC, in our case, makes total sense.
For our dates KLM is using Airbus A330 equipment on YYC-AMS which is the old World Business Class. Routing options exist to get you on better equipment if you have the time and interest. Saw options YYC-MSP-AMS-JNB, etc.
Roundtrip only.
Jul 16, 2014, 11:43 am
#2019
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
Posts: 8,852
Yeah, those have been posted here (and they even have a dedicated thread) for about 3 weeks already....
Jul 16, 2014, 4:12 pm
#2020
Used to be highman123
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 3,541
from Hyderabad to Seoul $1,220
$1,220 - Business Class
Departure from: Hyderabad (HYD)
Destination: Seoul (ICN)
Stops: Kuala Lumpur
Airline(s): Malaysia Airlines
Sample dates: Oct 6 – Oct 11
Total miles flown: 9,456 miles
Fare class: Z
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 12
Departure from: Hyderabad (HYD)
Destination: Seoul (ICN)
Stops: Kuala Lumpur
Airline(s): Malaysia Airlines
Sample dates: Oct 6 – Oct 11
Total miles flown: 9,456 miles
Fare class: Z
Cost per mile flown (the lower the better): 12
Jul 16, 2014, 4:35 pm
#2021
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,026
Too bad the YYZ-JNB fares are not matched by *A anymore
Jul 16, 2014, 5:36 pm
#2022
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: LAX
Programs: AA Gold (prev. Ex Plat for 10 years); DL Plat; UA Gold; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,338
The fares seem to come and go - I had not seen them for a couple of weeks after they were last discussed. I just saw them reappear in my searches although detailed fare notes appear to indicate they were filed on June 30. Perhaps *A will match at some point.
Jul 16, 2014, 5:37 pm
#2023
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Midwest
Programs: DL DM
Posts: 401
Found fares on DL, KL, AF (Business) and BA (Club World) between Canada and South Africa - seems bookable through end of schedule. Cheapest combinations appear to be on KL/DL from YYC at $2400USD roundtrip (YYC-AMS-JNB). Also bookable on BA from YYC and YYZ to either JNB or CPT for between $2900-3100USD roundtrip.
*Many* creative routing options available like YYC-DFW-LHR-CPT on BA/AA, YYC-AMS-CDG-JNB, etc. Truth be told the most efficient routings are YYC-AMS-JNB on KL - 2 hour stop in either direction in AMS.
Of particular interest, BA is also transitioning its 747 service between LHR and CPT to eliminate F. Operated by old F 747s, but book a Club World and you can be seated there (I believe you have to be AA PLT or Oneworld Ruby for that privilege). Old BA F with Club World service.
Use any fare calendar (ITA Matrix works best, Orbitz too) to see best flight combinations. DL/KL/AF fares appear to allow stopovers in AMS/CDG. We're heading to Africa next year and had originally booked a hideous routing. For $2400 plus positioning flights to YYC, in our case, makes total sense.
For our dates KLM is using Airbus A330 equipment on YYC-AMS which is the old World Business Class. Routing options exist to get you on better equipment if you have the time and interest. Saw options YYC-MSP-AMS-JNB, etc.
Roundtrip only.
*Many* creative routing options available like YYC-DFW-LHR-CPT on BA/AA, YYC-AMS-CDG-JNB, etc. Truth be told the most efficient routings are YYC-AMS-JNB on KL - 2 hour stop in either direction in AMS.
Of particular interest, BA is also transitioning its 747 service between LHR and CPT to eliminate F. Operated by old F 747s, but book a Club World and you can be seated there (I believe you have to be AA PLT or Oneworld Ruby for that privilege). Old BA F with Club World service.
Use any fare calendar (ITA Matrix works best, Orbitz too) to see best flight combinations. DL/KL/AF fares appear to allow stopovers in AMS/CDG. We're heading to Africa next year and had originally booked a hideous routing. For $2400 plus positioning flights to YYC, in our case, makes total sense.
For our dates KLM is using Airbus A330 equipment on YYC-AMS which is the old World Business Class. Routing options exist to get you on better equipment if you have the time and interest. Saw options YYC-MSP-AMS-JNB, etc.
Roundtrip only.
Jul 16, 2014, 5:46 pm
#2024
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,026
they were never gone on ST ... just *A stopped matching them. Too bad, maybe they'll come back. Last time ST had them for a while till *A started matching them as well
Last edited by cfischer; Jul 16, 2014 at 5:51 pm
Jul 16, 2014, 6:59 pm
#2025
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 1999
Posts: 11,468
Was anybody able to book the Worldcup specials offered by LH and LX?
Euro 2014 (~US$ 2650) business class Germany-U.S. & Brazil. Supposedly good thru today 16 July.
Euro 2014 (~US$ 2650) business class Germany-U.S. & Brazil. Supposedly good thru today 16 July.